Thief>Ninja/Dancer Class/Job

[Calypsx]

Keep in mind, there are also people that are emotionally attached to the concept of Ninja. Mutilating their construct just to make sure it doesn't impose upon what THF does is only going to piss *them* off. The emotional argument cuts both ways.

Sorry, this is outright amusing to me. You think a few Ninja idea's and suggestions are "mutilating" the job.

However you outright want to REMOVE the Thief job from ever possibly existing in the game. Guess who's really "mutilating" a job? You.

Your ideals are far more extreme than a suggestion that Ninja uses throwing weapons or use Katana's instead of Daggers. In your ideal world, Ninja will exist, and Thief will not. That sounds far more like a extreme form of "mutilation" towards Thief than anything that has been suggested for Ninja.

[Kitru]

You think a few Ninja idea's and suggestions are "mutilating" the job.

No, I think that focusing exclusively upon a few secondary aspects of the ninja in order to prevent ninja from overlapping with thief is mutilating the job. Ninja has never been all about throwing stuff. Yes, it has had throwing stuff as its class gimmick, but "throwing" isn't its central combat style. Its central combat style is normal melee combat using light weapons. It's "mutilating" ninja because you're amputating 90% of what the class is about and acting as if that remaining 10% is enough to assuage people that like Ninja and convince them that it's the same class that they like so much.

However you outright want to REMOVE the Thief job from ever possibly existing in the game. Guess who's really "mutilating" a job? You.

Seriously, you keep harping on this and it's just getting asinine. Implementing THF as a class is not removing it. It's implementing it in a position that isn't as eminent as you want it to be, which is what perturbs you. You don't want THF to be implemented; you want THF to be implemented *while having it be exactly as important as all of the other jobs*, which is not the same thing. The devs have already shown that they're willing to subsume one important archetype under the mantle of another. According to you, ARC was removed from the game. Apparently, it no longer exists even if it's still there but has the trappings of a BRD on top of it. ARC still shines through, but, according to you, it doesn't matter because you don't see that name there all the time once you've reached level 30.

[Calypsx]

You're right, this is getting ridiculous.

If that's what you wish to believe should happen then, fine.