1,2,9, and 10! I can't really decide on a 5th...
1,2,9, and 10! I can't really decide on a 5th...
I swear...if one more person says that jumping is a standard MMO feature...I may just have to make a video explaining why it isn't and which very successful MMOs DON'T have jump....or swim...
Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing
Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing
I only saw one person mention it on pages 1-4, and then you freaked out lol.
Also, Demon's Souls is listed as Action-adventure, Role-playing game with Single-player, online multiplayer features. That isn't an MMO. That leaves two games, one that is nine years old and the other a free to play turn based game. Lol hello to them...? Your point?
therefore, only FFXI is the MMO that success (in the niche market) without jumping
Yes, Demon's Souls is LISTED as such, but it is still a MMO since MMO only stands for Massive Multiplayer Online and seeing as how Demon's Souls has that, it counts. For example: SC2 is a RTS, but it is still a MMO.I only saw one person mention it on pages 1-4, and then you freaked out lol.
Also, Demon's Souls is listed as Action-adventure, Role-playing game with Single-player, online multiplayer features. That isn't an MMO. That leaves two games, one that is nine years old and the other a free to play turn based game. Lol hello to them...? Your point?
Atlantica, free to play and turned based (FF roots here), yes, but still very successful and one of the top rated MMOs on the market today.
FFXI may be 9 years old, but it still counts.
Want some more? Obviously we do because Evangela is still butthurt that the majority of players DON'T want jump in FFXIV.
Guild wars (no free jumping anyway)
Rohan,
Vindictus (voted second best F2P MMO of 2010, right behind LOTRO),
Rappelz (not on my list of good MMOs, but it still has quite a few players, despite the MANY flaws),
Lineage (There are actually people that hated that game because it didn't have jump, yet it still did very well),
Lineage 2
Quoted from the Lineage message board when someone complained about not having jump (when its not needed in the first place) "Go back to WoW."
Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing
World of WarcraftYes, Demon's Souls is LISTED as such, but it is still a MMO since MMO only stands for Massive Multiplayer Online and seeing as how Demon's Souls has that, it counts. For example: SC2 is a RTS, but it is still a MMO.
Atlantica, free to play and turned based (FF roots here), yes, but still very successful and one of the top rated MMOs on the market today.
FFXI may be 9 years old, but it still counts.
Want some more? Obviously we do because Evangela is still butthurt that the majority of players DON'T want jump in FFXIV.
Guild wars (no free jumping anyway)
Rohan,
Vindictus (voted second best F2P MMO of 2010, right behind LOTRO),
Rappelz (not on my list of good MMOs, but it still has quite a few players, despite the MANY flaws),
Lineage (There are actually people that hated that game because it didn't have jump, yet it still did very well),
Lineage 2
Quoted from the Lineage message board when someone complained about not having jump (when its not needed in the first place) "Go back to WoW."
Aion
Perfect World
Forsaken World
Ether Saga Online
Jade Dynasty
Warhammer
Age of Conan
LOTRO
Rift
New MMOs coming WITH jump:
Star Wars: The Old Republic
TERA
Guild Wars 2
Blade and Soul
ArcheAge
Congratulations, for every MMO you list where you can't jump, someone can probably list two where you can. So please, don't even get me started. Funny, one of the companies that makes a few games you listed has no jump on their older titles, while their newer titles will have jump. Maybe that says something?
Oh, and SC2 isn't listed as an MMO either. It has online function's yes, but it is an online RTS. As for Demon's Souls, the (M) in (M)MO stands for massively, can you play with hundreds/thousands of players at once in that game? I'm not sure as I haven't ever played it, but I think not.
On a side note, while MMO does indeed stand for Massively Multi-player Online, most people that refer to them on these forums are probably shortening the term from MMORPG (Massively Multi-player Online Role Playing Game) and SC2 is not in that genre at all.
Last edited by Nikita; 06-14-2011 at 08:08 AM.
My point is that Jumping is not standard. Also, I can list MANY MMOs that do not have jump. I merely listed those that were incredibly successful. Out of your list, there are a few that failed (AoC, Rift, Warhammer, Aion *IMO*) and those that are already getting criticized (TERA). Again, my point is that jumping is not standard for MMOs and is not needed for them to be successful. There is currently 0 need for jump to be implemented into the game. There are no houses to jump onto, there are no bosses that require a skilled timed jump from platform to platform, there is none of that. I'm fine with jumping in MMOs (played PWI for a good 2 years, WoW for 3 weeks, LOTRO for a month, Aion for a couple of months, and I STILL play Allods and RoM), but it just does not fit in some MMOs (like Final Fantasy). And again, since some people are hard headed, MY POINT IS THAT JUMPING IS NOT STANDARD.World of Warcraft
Aion
Perfect World
Forsaken World
Ether Saga Online
Jade Dynasty
Warhammer
Age of Conan
LOTRO
Rift
New MMOs coming WITH jump:
Staw Wars: The Old Republic
TERA
Guild Wars 2
Blade and Soul
Congratulations, for every MMO you list where you can't jump, someone can probably list two where you can. So please, don't even get me started. Funny, one of the companies that makes a few games you listed has no jump, while their newer titles will have jump. Maybe that says something?
Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing
1) More Field maps
2) More Dungeon maps
3) More NMs
4) SP rewards on Quests.
5) More Armors and weapons
6) Linkshell to command retainers
7) Chat channels
8) More quests
9) More Full party quests
10) More lvl50 content
11) Balance Number of Disciples of Magic and Disciples of War
12) Crafting unrelated minigames (cards, racing..)
13) PvP content
14) Linkshell Administration (kicks, adds, LS retainers, LS skills, LS customizable Icons..)
15) Multi-windows interface
16) Addons
17) Fix Party leveling (Enmity, skillchains, kill chains, battle regimen allow to continue fighting)
18) Improve monsters spawns and population
19) Environment interact (jump, swim, fly, dig..)
20) Balance party combats (longer combats with more sp reward)
21) Add Special monsters (not NM) like “Elites” in other games.
22) More client options (hide gear parts, fix sound volume for weather and doors, more chat tabs, chat colors,etc)
23) Allow crafters to destroy items to recover materials
24) Change Markets to don’t need to move inside to get your items
25) Fix disconnects problems (no kick from partys, no losing guildleves or factions..)
26) Wardroves (to show yourself with different gear than your equipment)
27) Random events (Beastmen’s partys routing to fight, dungeon coffers..)
28) Pets system (feed, interact, grown)
29) Allow dye armors after craft
30) More funny NMs (Go out of sight on some unstuneable skills, taking care of ground, moving
3,9,17,20,10
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