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  1. #1061
    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Fantasia should be extremely restricted in availability and not something you purchase with extra money beyond your subscription, no matter how much money they would earn doing otherwise.
    why? fantasia potions and the ability to reskin your character give virtually no in game advantage or edge. they are purely cosmetic. personally ive already used my fantasia but im already starting to grow bored with my look and would like to switch it up to see if i like something better. aesthetics are a very important part of alot of people's play style and if they arent happy with or grow bored with how their character looks they may very well quit over it.

    looks are that important... far far more important than stats imho
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  2. #1062
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    HurtigeKarl's Avatar
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    Karl Hurtig
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    why? fantasia potions and the ability to reskin your character give virtually no in game advantage or edge. they are purely cosmetic. personally ive already used my fantasia but im already starting to grow bored with my look and would like to switch it up to see if i like something better. aesthetics are a very important part of alot of people's play style and if they arent happy with or grow bored with how their character looks they may very well quit over it.

    looks are that important... far far more important than stats imho
    Precisely because FFXIV is a work of art both aesthetically and how the world is designed that I am against easy race or gender changes. Race and gender changes break against the internal logic of the world; haircuts and cloth change does not. They would though be able to do something similar be possible by introducing shapeshifters into the story, but not before they do so.

    Whether or not something gives advantage is an entirely different matter, and the discussion is not needed for me to form the opinion I have on race and gender changes.
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  3. #1063
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    Sunset Shimmerr
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    Your opinion should have no bearing on whether or not somebody else should be allowed the freedom to play how THEY want.

    Simple as that.
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  4. #1064
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyl-Scratch View Post
    Your opinion should have no bearing on whether or not somebody else should be allowed the freedom to play how THEY want.

    Simple as that.
    I am not worried, SquareEnix seems to share the opinion, that's why they restricted race and gender changes like they did in the first place .
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  5. #1065
    Player Tatsuo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayori View Post
    Still, some people already used the restore and would like another vial.
    SE should just make them available in another way. Yet we hear nothing from them.
    I feel super sorry for those people that wasted their once-in-a-lifetime item restoration allowance on an useless item like Fantasia.
    I'm looking forward to the day where they accidentally discarded an Kraken Club-esque item or a super-awesome relic weapon v3.5 and want it back.
    Then they will regret that they had the GMs recover the Fantasia 3 years ago...
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  6. #1066
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    Mia Montblanc
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    I would love to see this implemented. I am notoriously fickle and really enjoy changing my appearance.
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  7. #1067
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    Wadoka's Avatar
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    Eilis Tozet
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    I would wager (but have not proved) that your character skin isn't *entirely* irrelevant... if you are a ranged damage dealer

    Elezen Bard: "Thwip! Thwip! Thwipthwipthwip!" "Hey, I can see my house from here."

    Lalafell Bard: "TARGET NOT IN LINE OF SIGHT" "!@#$%!"

    Heh!
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  8. #1068
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    Allyie Gaiters
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Precisely because FFXIV is a work of art both aesthetically and how the world is designed that I am against easy race or gender changes. Race and gender changes break against the internal logic of the world; haircuts and cloth change does not. They would though be able to do something similar be possible by introducing shapeshifters into the story, but not before they do so.

    Whether or not something gives advantage is an entirely different matter, and the discussion is not needed for me to form the opinion I have on race and gender changes.
    I fail to see how Fantasia breaks the internal logic of the game given that it is an actual item in the game with a description that gives it some history. Same with things like the warrior of light minions or the floating cursor minion.
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  9. #1069
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuo View Post
    I feel super sorry for those people that wasted their once-in-a-lifetime item restoration allowance on an useless item like Fantasia.
    I'm looking forward to the day where they accidentally discarded an Kraken Club-esque item or a super-awesome relic weapon v3.5 and want it back.
    Then they will regret that they had the GMs recover the Fantasia 3 years ago...
    Lol hopefully in 3 years time they will have adopted a modern day item restoration service like WoW has, where you simply go to their website where it has a database of every item you have ever destroyed/disposed of and allows you to restore any of them. (In cases where you sold the item to an NPC, it charges you the same amount you sold it for upon restoration.)

    https://us.battle.net/support/en/restoration
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    Last edited by Nikita; 01-13-2014 at 01:16 PM.

  10. #1070
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    HurtigeKarl's Avatar
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    Karl Hurtig
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyie View Post
    I fail to see how Fantasia breaks the internal logic of the game given that it is an actual item in the game with a description that gives it some history. Same with things like the warrior of light minions or the floating cursor minion.
    You are very right, in the sense that the text attached to the Fantasia suggests that there is a legend suggesting that drinking that special potion has a certain effect.

    To be specific, the text says:

    "Legend states that any who drinks this mysterious liquid before lying down for the evening will awaken a new man (or woman)"
    ---------

    I had not seen the picture with the text before, so this is new information for me thank you.

    Given this new information: it is clear that the Fantasia potions needs be kept rare to not break against the "Legend" status it currently has and I would definitely encourage SquareEnix to change the usage of the potion so that you have to wait until the ingame morning to see the change .
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