Nael Van Darnus

[Hyrist]

Shhh you'll get the butthurt legacy players (Goobue uproar lmao) on your case about how newer people like me dont deserve to fight him :P

Speak for yourself. I want them to do a Nael van Darnus fight, as a legacy player.

I've zero care whether or not it was a 1.0 Exclusive. It's content, and good content from my memory. It's something they can share, honestly, and I wouldn't get upset. In fact, I'd get excited.

[Tupsi]

It would be fun if they can make it make sense - Those who didn't play 1.23, I'm not sure how the minstrel can "recall" a battle you never took part in. Yoshi was pretty clear it was exclusive battle to 1.23 and if you beat Turn 5 it wouldn't make much sense either. Heck, the people who didn't even touch FFXIV 1.x at all I'm not sure how the Minstrel can tell the tale of your battle you never had.

Then again, Yoshi contradicts everything he states so maybe it will return but I'd sooner see a retelling of Gaius than a boss of a storyline that no longer is present in the game unless there's another Dalamud floating around and he's trying to harness it to cleanse Eorzea again.

[Asael]

Shhh you'll get the butthurt legacy players (Goobue uproar lmao) on your case about how newer people like me dont deserve to fight him :P

I'm a legacy player, and it wouldn't bother me.

[HakuroDK]

I like the point someone else brought up about using the Minstrel's Ballad mechanic used to repeat the fight with Ultima Weapon as a means of repeating the battle against Nael Van Darnus. The original fight would still be 1.0 exclusive, but the new fight would be purposely more difficult with new mechanics, exactly like Ultima Weapon. And in the plot of the game, all that would happen is that the Minstrel would be telling the story of the battle, and your character would either remember it if they were legacy, or they would understand what happened if they weren't.

Then again, for anyone whose watched the final cutscenes for Coil... well... I won't spoil anything, but I'm thinking Coil Turns 6-10 are gonna render this whole argument moot.

[saber_alter]

yes. i want this. i want rivenroad. gimme.

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i'm pretty sure a minstrel can recall a tale of a fight that you were not in.

the only difference would be instead of recalling the fight in your memories, your listening to the recount of the fight and asking yourself "how would i go about doing this?"

[Dregnautt]

Ooooh i would love this fight!!!!

[Linadae]

For those wondering how the minstrel would work this out since many players never did this its very simple. The fight is legendary. It's been 5 years and people would still remember how the mystical warriors of light brought down the most vicious psychopath to ever walk Hydaleyn in an attempt to save eorzea from the blood red falling moon.

"Here Adventurer, let me tell you a tale of a battle and betrayal so great that it rocked the very souls of both the Empire and Eorzea. It is a tale that will surely inspire you to preform even greater feats in the name of the land you fight for."

See problem solved.

[TheGrimace]

I never got to do Rivenroad because my PC stopped working right before the final epic battle of 1.0. I have been sad ever since because Nael van Darnus is one of the most interesting FF villains we've had since Kefka. The only one coming close was Gabranth with his complex past constantly in an internal struggle between justice and revenge.

Being able to finally take on this boss would be fantastic, regardless of the rewards.

[BobbinT]

Don't you need to fight the battle first before you can tell the minstrel about it so he can make a song?
Would it not mean that only 1.0 characters can unlock the fight in ARR?

And another note to add:

At that time, the minstrel was imprisoned by the Yellowjackets I think (cmiiw). And because of that, he could no longer be able to hand out gobbue horns to new adventurers. And also because of that, there is no way he could have heard about event surrounding Rivenroad.

Back then, if any players visit the same spot where the minstrel was and keep poking around, we got sent to prison where the minstrel was. And when we ask him, he will say prophecies about the coming disaster that would fell, which would be Dalamud itself.

Here's the patch note back then that indicates these turn of events:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ch-1.23a-Notes

[Alhanelem]

At that time, the minstrel was imprisoned by imperials I think (cmiiw).

No, not by imperials, by the Yellowjackets.