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    Ok Xystic, here is your post form your link you provided above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    So before I have to repeatedly correct hundreds of posts everyday. Please understand, at the current time, we have no information to prove which way the economy is swinging. The only people who have these numbers are SE.
    You are stating that there is NO information to prove which way the economy is going. In my above post, i have shown a way to gather the data you are stating is not avail to everyone. To re-state, all that is needed is to pull the transaction history for all items to see market/economy. This of-course is using your "theory/logic" that the MB is the ONLY indication of the economy


    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    That's not presenting the information. When we have graduates present their thesis, they do not come up and tell us, Birds fly, the information is out there if you so want it. To support your argument, that's your job to present the information, to lay claim that birds fly or in this case the economy has many underlying problems, you need to present us that information that shows us, the community, your findings are indeed supported. Telling me the information is out there but not telling me what that information indicates the economy is going in is, awkward. Then without even looking or presenting the information, you have concluded, the economy has many underlying problems, with zero evidence and at the same time have proposed ways to address an issue we haven't even confirmed yet.
    You conveniently left out a big thing in my quote stating that once they unlock/allow XML coding for the UI peopole can write scrips/applets to run this with ease. Unfortunately, I am not that savvy with XML coding. Below is the full quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
    You are right, we as players, do not readily have this information available in an instant, but it is avail through transactional history, its just a pain to gather that type of data in a meaningful fashion. I am sure once they unlock the XML coding we will have people that will try to pull real-time data from the different boards to websites and the likes.

    Also, Please note that theory is based on empirical evidence until technology is avail to scientifically prove. Please see example of Marie Curie and her discovery of Radioactive isotopes. That whole putting x-ray plates near radium and noticing "dots" which were the radioactive isotopes that emanated from the radium. See below link from Wikipedia.

    Wikipedia Link

    As much as I hate using Wikipedia as a source since it is "crowd-sourced" and anyone can edit it, its the best i could find w/o copy pasting pages from Encyclopedia Britannica.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    Everything is accounted for in the gil in circulation numbers. It is not at the beginning or initial part of the equation. It is the product of the entire equation. Each one of those factors help determine the product of the equation. If you are failing to see this logic then I feel should not advance this concept any further. This is just the basics and you are struggling to understand that gil in circulation is the product of the entire equation, which means everything has already been factored in. Cause if they weren't, it wouldn't be the gil in circulation.
    Please enlighten us with your wonderful equasion which is taking everything into account. Since you are so adamanat that everyone must provide cold hard facts to back-up their claim, please provide yours.

    I guess you must have a masters in economics, because all I have are the standard 4 classes I did for my bachelors and no where do I remember where currency circulation is the end-all be-all for economies.
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