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    Wulfies Mightypaw
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    Silly thing is, I'm only arguing one point in that entire thread. You can only disagree with all of it or agree with it. You can't say some of it.
    Silly thing, if you just put a link to a post with nothing else, its hard to understand what you are trying to provide feedback to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    All I'm saying is people need to present the gil in circulation numbers in order to support that the economy is doing good or bad.
    Ahhh....now there we go, that is what you are asking....You can present gil circulation, below I argued how it is avail, while not in a form that you can grab at a whim, but still information is there for the taking if you should so want:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
    You are right, we as players, do not readily have this information available in an instant, but it is avail through transactional history, its just a pain to gather that type of data in a meaningful fashion. I am sure once they unlock the XML coding we will have people that will try to pull real-time data from the different boards to websites and the likes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    Gil in Circulation - Is the total amount of gil being spent everyday. Not the overall amount of gil a server has.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    Everything has already been accounted for.

    If people spend too much porting/repairing/MB fees, they will have less to spend or will be deterred to spend what they have left on the MB. Which will be reflected in the gil in circulation numbers.

    If people earn a ton of gil and now have more to spend or earn too little gil from gil generation and have too little to spend, it will be reflected in the gil in circulation numbers.

    If people are hoarding gil and not spending, it will be reflected in the gil in circulation numbers.

    That's why gil in circulation should be presented as evidence of a struggling economy or booming economy because it accounts everything in to the equation.
    You are defining "Gil in Circulation" as the total gil being spent over whatever time frame you want. You have to include the Fees imposed by SE, since that is money being taken off the table and out of circulation/spent. Money spent on the boards can be likened to a pseudo discretionary funds. You have to pay for repairs (by buying the dark matter or having repair merchant repair it.) You have to pay the tax when you sell stuff on the MBs but you don't have to buy the Rose Gold Ingot that Joe Schmo is selling for 1 gil...


    With all that beig said, I go back to my original post first couple of sentences:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
    So everyone is complaining on how the markets have crapped crashed and singing the chorus to that REM song "It’s the end of the world as we know it". So I thought about how we can fix this. I have seen posts that complain about this, that, and the other. These posts just seem to be addressing the SYMPTOMS not the real underlying problem (at-least in my eyes).

    The way I see it, it’s not a matter of the Market Boards/Undercutting/taxes/fees, but more of over-supply and no demand. I hope to address this in my solution below that will benefit the entire community in general.
    It not a matter of gil circulation (which i have provided a way of attaining above) but more of everyone and their grandma now has a pocket crafter job(s) that is/are 50 (which is really easy to attain now.) We have a HUGE in-flux of crafted gear due to SE's supply-side economic policies they have implemented. My solution helps alleviate this in a form. I see this as only a good thing because this will only further increase, as you put it, "Gil in Circulation"

    I see this as a good thing....maybe its just me
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