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    Darksword's Avatar
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    Athena Darkfairy
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Even as a SCH I don't have enough MP to DD consistently in the lower instances. People are just missing too many tools:

    >No overgearing
    >Tanks lacking cooldowns
    >No Lustrate
    >Many times capped at 2 Aetherflows

    I sometimes get lowish on MP just from healing alone. Trying to DD in anything below 50 is dumb, IMO.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Darksword View Post
    Even as a SCH I don't have enough MP to DD consistently in the lower instances. People are just missing too many tools:

    >No overgearing
    >Tanks lacking cooldowns
    >No Lustrate
    >Many times capped at 2 Aetherflows

    I sometimes get lowish on MP just from healing alone. Trying to DD in anything below 50 is dumb, IMO.
    I've been leveling almost solely off of dungeons and I've been DPSing all the way up to Cutter's Cry. Eos can solo heal pretty much anything below that point, so either you're not microing your faerie or you're doing something terribly wrong.

    With that said, SCH is my second class so I'm more than likely judging unfairly. If you're not comfortable with it, then don't, but know it's very much possible.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darksword View Post
    Even as a SCH I don't have enough MP to DD consistently in the lower instances. People are just missing too many tools:

    >No overgearing
    >Tanks lacking cooldowns
    >No Lustrate
    >Many times capped at 2 Aetherflows

    I sometimes get lowish on MP just from healing alone. Trying to DD in anything below 50 is dumb, IMO.
    I can think of literally one instance pre-50 where healing is so intensive that you need to occasionally care about healing: Stone Vigil, and only for certain pulls. Assuming people aren't getting hit by AoE they're not supposed to be getting hit by.

    The attitude that SCH DPS pre-50 is so hard is pretty funny, since you should still almost never be running out of MP.
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    Yuri Ramona
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    I can think of literally one instance pre-50 where healing is so intensive that you need to occasionally care about healing: Stone Vigil, and only for certain pulls. Assuming people aren't getting hit by AoE they're not supposed to be getting hit by.

    The attitude that SCH DPS pre-50 is so hard is pretty funny, since you should still almost never be running out of MP.
    You're right that healing is a joke in almost all pre-50 content. However, it is possible to run out of MP, if pulls are coming too quickly for MP regeneration. Of course, the tank and DPS would also be out of TP, because the TP/MP meters regenerate in roughly the same time (not to 100% MP but to a battle-ready level of ~33-50%).

    As a tank I am guilty of chain-pulling in low level dungeons to the point where the healer runs OOM even if they are only curing.

    So, it is possible, but this situation is not intended or ideal.

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    With that said, if a healer (and a SCH, at that) is running out of MP within the course of 2-3 continuous pulls, then something else is horribly, horribly wrong. This is especially so since all Aetherflow charges go towards Energy Drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicWand View Post
    This is one of the many reason why most players choose to be DPS instead of tanks or healer roles. Tank or healer gets blamed most of the time for wipes. Doesn't matter what MMO you are playing, tanks and healers are in short demand because of the pressure and the thankless jobs they do.
    This is an issue. The efficiency of a dungeon run depends on DPS knowing how to maximize their damage output. If a tank runs out of abilities or a healer MP, then that can also partially be the fault of ineffective DPS.

    Having used Duty Roulette for quite a while now, I've encountered plenty of DPS who will insist on several things:
    1. Having the tank mark and number targets, and proceed to burn down enemies one at a time.
    2. Sleeping adds.

    The reality is, the most time-efficient manner of clearing a group of enemies is to apply DoT abilities (Fracture, Bio, etc) to each enemy and use AoE abilities when there are 3 or more targets. Instead, I consistently encounter DPS who will spam their standard, single-target rotation on one enemy at a time, even though DoT abilities yield more DPS, are more TP-efficient, and draw less enmity.
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    Last edited by YuriRamona; 01-10-2014 at 03:16 AM.