PLEASE, stop teaching/telling new healers to DPS

[Runalong]

When I was leveling my Scholar DPS'ing was the only thing that made running instances fun since my pet pretty much did all the healing. Granted I healed a lot in WoW so I'm not exactly new to it but still, it helps the run go faster.

[Psychosamm]

Why are so many people hating on OP? I agree 100% with him/her. If you're just starting to learn about healing make sure you're 100% confident in healing before you start DPSing. Healing is your first concern, only when you have become confident in that aspect should you expand by DPSing. OP isn't saying healers shouldn't ever DPS, he's saying don't DPS if you end up slacking on your heals.

[Lyrinn]

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It's because of the way he presented his issue. Instead of bashing the players who haven't managed to get a grip on heal DPSing, he's telling us to stop giving the advice at all. If some idiot overexercises and passes out from exhaustion or dehydration, do you tell people to stop saying exercise is healthy? It's not the advice that's at fault, it's the players not following the advice properly.

[Katchii]

Keeping people alive comes first, always. But only playing your class at half it's potential is just as bad imo.

How else is a Healer suposed to learn and understand when it's OK to DPS and when you need to focus on healing if people with experience don't teach them? or if they don't try it out themselves and fail a few times to learn?

I understand what th OP is trying to say, but it just sounds like he got stuck with someone who was still learning and he got frustrated because they failed... get over it and help the healer help you by giving him/ her some advice on how to do better next time. The only thing you're going to get if you whine at the healer for this is a pissed off healer, a frustrated group, and quite possibly a waste of time if the healer just up and leaves.

[Raestloz]

It's because of the way he presented his issue. Instead of bashing the players who haven't managed to get a grip on heal DPSing, he's telling us to stop giving the advice at all. If some idiot overexercises and passes out from exhaustion or dehydration, do you tell people to stop saying exercise is healthy? It's not the advice that's at fault, it's the players not following the advice properly.

Entirely different beast.

What the OP is saying is "stop asking new combat medics to also shoot at the Nazis, they get so distracted our wounded are not healed properly"

If someone overexercises, the advice would be to reduce the amount of effort spent in one session. In "exercise" field, the equivalent would be someone who's doing yoga but also practicing kickboxing at the same time.

A true master can do both, but for newbies, you better start getting good at one first

[Lyrinn]

A true master can do both, but for newbies, you better start getting good at one first

Which still doesn't make the advice wrong.

And no, that is not how the OP came off to me. Here's the exact quote.

If you can't do it while keeping the tank’s health above 50% at all times, just stop. And at lower levels, you don’t have the Lustrates or Divine Seal Regens that make it easier to do at higher levels.

I'm perfectly fine with this qualifier, except it's immediately followed up with an absolute:

As a community, you guys have to stop spreading this message that healers should be attacking or they aren’t playing their class to their full potential.

If healers aren't attacking when they can be, they aren't playing their class to their full potential. Fact. And I'm not going suddenly say it's false because a few dummies don't know the basics.

[Marcusow86]

IMO, if i am healer and i am comfortable with DPS-ing, sure why not. If i am not, i can always just focus on healing only. I am a healer and as long as i fulfill my primary duty as a healer, no one can fault me.

No one can tell a healer that they absolutely should DPS, it is like telling a SMN that they should heal just because they have physick or a PLD that they should stoneskin just because they can cross class. Yes, it is nice if healers help out in DPS whenever they can, but if they don't and the party wipes, due to not enough DPS, then blame the DPS for not doing a good job even when that is their main role instead of bashing your healer.

And to healers out there, just because you are not a DPS and you can be lazy, doesn't mean that you cannot help out and add value to your class.

Finally to OP, you are just bad luck meeting a healing that cannot estimate and prioritize his/her mana usage.

[Raestloz]

Which still doesn't make the advice wrong.

And no, that is not how the OP came off to me. Here's the exact quote.


I'm perfectly fine with this qualifier, except it's immediately followed up with an absolute:

If healers aren't attacking when they can be, they aren't playing their class to their full potential. Fact. And I'm not going suddenly say it's false because a few dummies don't know the basics.

I saw the title "new healer" and assumed that the OP was, talking about new healers getting brainwashed with "noob, go dps" and things go hectic because they're distracted. I did not think that OP was talking about experienced players there.

Perhaps you see things differently than I do.

[Zhi]

my first time healing was running ak a long time ago for my relic before most people had relics, even then all it took was a regen and you can cleric stance for at least 10 seconds

[Brises]

A new player of any class should be trying different things and finding out what works for them. That's what the early levels are for. Nobody should be discouraged from finding their own play style.