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    ^^ I'm an engineer and just brute forced the hell out of this with a VBA script in excel. It runs through every single possible armor combination there is in my database and picks the global maximum of DPS weight while equal to or above the acc requirement i enter. But I do like your approach, would of saved me some time if I thought about it from that perspective initially. Script usually takes about 30 seconds to a minute on this machine to go through it all. However with every new piece of gear I add I double the amount of combinations by two and depending on a whole lot of things could multiply the calculation time to who knows hahah.

    Edit. In between every gear set possibility I apply the food buffs to the current set and do my rounding (flooring). It should be pretty accurate provided the game doesn't have any weird order of operation/rounding/truncation rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    I see the problem. 1) I missed that you were using the myth head, thought it was allagan. 2) You want to hit 463 with gear alone, not using food. The accuracy food is to hit 472 for T5 only.
    Ahh I thought there was some parsing being done to try to lower what our accuracy cap really is. Was the testing you were asking for earlier in the thread at 463 with food buff or without? I interpreted it as without. I remember reading somebody tested at 459. Was that pre or post acc food buff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    Ahh I thought there was some parsing being done to try to lower what our accuracy cap really is. Was the testing you were asking for earlier in the thread at 463 with food buff or without? I interpreted it as without. I remember reading somebody tested at 459. Was that pre or post acc food buff?
    That was without. Since we don't know the exact ceiling for T5, but we do know it is 473 or less, the idea for now is to have the lowest possible accuracy on your gear for the other 95% of the game that doesn't require high accuracy, while still being able to hit ~472 as needed for T5 (though the ceiling is likely lower than this). Hence getting 463 with gear alone, then using the +2% accuracy from food to bump that up to 472 for T5 as needed.
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    Wow, I thought acc cap was in the 480s for T5. That's great news. I'm at 470 w/o food right now, but don't have any alternate gear options at the moment. Guess I'll try to avoid extra accuracy for a while.
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  5. #1125
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    Wow, I thought acc cap was in the 480s for T5. That's great news. I'm at 470 w/o food right now, but don't have any alternate gear options at the moment. Guess I'll try to avoid extra accuracy for a while.
    The discussion regarding the ~480 cap began on page 101, and parses have been posted sporadically since then. We're currently trying to narrow the cap down, but it's definitely between 460-470.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    The discussion regarding the ~480 cap began on page 101, and parses have been posted sporadically since then. We're currently trying to narrow the cap down, but it's definitely between 460-470.
    Keep up the good work, guys! I'm no math whiz, but I love discussing concepts. You guys are the backbone to me trying to not talk completely out of my ass.
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    All sets below are only valid if you use HQ Buttons in a Blanket.


    Pre-T5 482ACC (485)

    Weapon Relic+1
    Head Allagan
    Body Myth
    Hands Allagan
    Legs Allagan
    Feet Myth
    Waist Myth
    Necklace Allagan Striking
    Earring Tremor
    Bracelet Myth
    Ring Allagan Striking
    Ring2 Myth
    679.641

    Pre T5 463ACC(465)
    Weapon Relic+1
    Head Allagan
    Body Myth
    Hands Myth
    Legs Allagan
    Feet Myth
    Waist Myth
    Necklace Allagan Striking
    Earring Tremor
    Bracelet Myth
    Ring Myth
    Ring2 Allagan Maiming
    683.213

    T5 482ACC
    Weapon Allagan
    Head Myth
    Body Myth
    Hands Myth
    Legs Allagan
    Feet Allagan
    Waist Myth
    Necklace Allagan Maiming
    Earring Allagan Maiming
    Bracelet Myth
    Ring Allagan Striking
    Ring2 Allagan Maiming
    694.988

    T5 463ACC(465)
    Weapon Allagan
    Head Myth
    Body Myth
    Hands Allagan
    Legs Allagan
    Feet Allagan
    Waist Myth
    Necklace Allagan Striking
    Earring Tremor
    Bracelet Myth
    Ring Allagan Striking
    Ring2 Allagan Maiming
    698.693
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    Ran it at 466 Accuracy using Button Mushroom Sautes to reach 472 accuracy, less overall stat weight score than the 476 set which was using Buttons in Blanket. Not even worth it.

    As for 463,

    Score without food: 692.053
    Score with Deviled Eggs HQ (472 accuracy): 695.01172
    Score with Buttons in Blankets HQ: 698.70036

    Weapon: Allagan Spear
    Head: Wyrm's Armet
    Chest: Wyrm's Mail
    Gloves: Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming
    Waist: Hero's Belt of Maiming
    Legs: Allagan Trousers of Maiming
    Boots: Allagan Sollerets of maiming
    Necklace: Allagan Choker of Striking
    Bracelet: Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
    Earrings: Tremor Earrings of Striking
    Ring1: Allagan Ring of Striking
    Ring2: Allagan Ring of Maiming

    Accuracy: 463
    Critical Hit Rate: 61
    Skill Speed: 43
    Determination: 159

    The issue with this set, is to boost it so 472, you'll have to use HQ deviled eggs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    As for 463,

    Score without food: 692.053

    Weapon: Allagan Spear
    Head: Wyrm's Armet
    Chest: Wyrm's Mail
    Gloves: Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming
    Waist: Hero's Belt of Maiming
    Legs: Allagan Trousers of Maiming
    Boots: Allagan Sollerets of maiming
    Necklace: Allagan Choker of Striking
    Bracelet: Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
    Earrings: Tremor Earrings of Striking
    Ring1: Allagan Ring of Striking
    Ring2: Allagan Ring of Maiming

    Accuracy: 463
    Critical Hit Rate: 61
    Skill Speed: 43
    Determination: 159

    The issue with this set, is to boost it so 472, you'll have to use HQ deviled eggs.
    Isn't this the same as was posted above:

    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    T5 463ACC(465)
    Weapon Allagan
    Head Myth
    Body Myth
    Hands Allagan
    Legs Allagan
    Feet Allagan
    Waist Myth
    Necklace Allagan Striking
    Earring Tremor
    Bracelet Myth
    Ring Allagan Striking
    Ring2 Allagan Maiming
    But yours says 463 accuracy, while the other is 465
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Isn't this the same as was posted above:



    But yours says 463 accuracy, while the other is 465
    The set has 465 accuracy, indeed. I was meant to say "aiming" for 463 accuracy. Was typing this post whilst raiding, not a good idea ahaha! That's also why it took me forever to post it >_<
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