Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Thorauku]

Is there any good on using Holy Lance for pre-T5 BiS? Or it's just for pure Vanity?

[PArcher]

Is there any good on using Holy Lance for pre-T5 BiS? Or it's just for pure Vanity?

I'd say pure Vanity...Skillspeed is our worst stat

[RoughDivider]

As far as I know its going to be pretty minimal, I'm pretty sure the first page explains it, I could be wrong but it was >4% difference.

[Migosha]

I digged a bit and couldn't find the post I wanted, but as far as I remember the average potency are the following :
H IDC P TTT H TTT P IDC H TTT P TTT => 135.7
HP IDC TTT => 133.X
You shouldn't go for HP IDC TTT HP TTT TTT as it's a little less efficient than HP IDC TTT rinse and repeat. The only time you will apply HP IDC TTT HP TTT TTT is on your very first opening as your CT is buffed by BfB and IR and better to keep the fully buffed DoT run.

Concerning the BiS list, every calculation tends to give the following as 463 (465 in fact) :
- Wyrm's Armet
- Wyrm's mail
- Allagan Gauntlets of maiming (T2)
- Hero's belt of maiming
- Allagan trousers of maiming (T1)
- Allagan Sollerets of maiming (T5)
- Allagan choker of striking (T2)
- Earthquake's Earrings
- Hero's Braclet of Slaying
- Allagan ring of striking (T4)
- Allagan ring of maiming (T4)

I don't know if it's because I'm running it under Excel 2007 and not 2010 but the solver is acting very weird. I have to run it multiple times as it doesn't always find the same result. Do you have the same behavior Dervy?

Anyway we won't have a real BiS list as long as we can't confirm the Acc's cap for T5.

[FantasyForever]

Ring of Striking is t1 not 4

[EasymodeX]

the solver is acting very weird. I have to run it multiple times as it doesn't always find the same result.

Make sure you're running the linear solver. Should be Simplex LP iirc.

[Dervy]

Get the belt I'd say. That's BiS on pretty much every set I've seen thus far.

[Provocateur]

I've seen the belt on the lists as well, maybe I calculated it incorrectly but my current Onion Tassets produce some nice weighted values. Hence my hesitation.

Onion Tassets
Strength 11 x 1.000 = 11
Vitality 13
Critical Hit Rate 10 x 0.184 = 1.840
Determination 10 x 0.323 = 3.230
Weighted: 16.07

Hero's Belt of Maiming
Strength 13 x 1.000 = 13
Vitality 15
Critical Hit Rate 11 x 0.184 = 2.024
Accuracy 16
Weighted = 13.024

I do realize they lack Acc which may be required to make the BiSet.

[Dervy]

Running for 463 Accuracy including Tassets + Allagan Spear

Weapon: Allagan Spear
Head: Wyrm's Armet
Body: Wyrm's Mail
Gloves: Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming
Waist: Onion's Tassets
Legs: Allagan Trousers of Maiming
Boots: Allagan Solerets of Maiming
Neck: Allagan Choker of Striking
Earrings: Allagan Earrings of Striking
Bracelets: Hero's Bracelets
Ring 1: Allagan Striking
Ring 2: Allagan Maiming

Score Without Food: 690.106
Score With Buttons in Blankets HQ: 697.114
Score with Button Mushroom Saute HQ: 694.305
WD: 47
Accuracy: 465
Strength: 499
Crit: 49
Skill Speed: 43
Determination: 166

Crit W/ Blankets HQ: 59
DET w/ Blankets HQ: 182 (lol)

That 2 Strength made all the difference. I guess it's because of the difference of Determination vs Strength & the loss of that CRT, which is weird. Someone mind rerunning this for me? Should be higher but I calculated it with less...
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Running for 463 W/ Gae Bolg +1 Pre-Turn 5

Weapon: Gae Bolg +1
Head: Allagan Visor of Maiming
Chest: Wyrm's Mail
Gloves: Allagan Gloves of Maiming
Waist: Onion Tassets
Legs: Allagan Tassets of Maiming
Boots: Wyrm's Greaves
Necklace: Allagan Choker of Striking
Earrings: Tremor Earrings of Striking
Bracelet: Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
Ring1: Hero's ring of Slaying
Ring2: Allagan Ring of Maiming

Score Without Food: 675.339
Score With Buttons in Blankets HQ: 682.347
Score with Button Mushroom Saute HQ: 679.538
WD: 46
Accuracy: 464
Strength: 496
Crit: 92
Skill Speed: 48
Determination: 129

Not worth it.

Gunna find out I did wrong.