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    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the strategy that is being used for the Binding Coil of Bahamut Turn 2 against ADS and they do not consider it to be an exploit. There are currently no plans to make any adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the strategy that is being used for the Binding Coil of Bahamut Turn 2 against ADS and they do not consider it to be an exploit. There are currently no plans to make any adjustments.
    Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose. current ADS enrage means you can bypass all ADS mechanics, take 3 healers and automatically win, so all the work and effort put into ADS mechanics/design is out of the window, and turn 2 has turned into the new turn 3 but with free loot.

    Tell developers that they should consider adjusting it not because its an exploit people are taking advantage of, but because ADS is a joke now and the fight mechanics are useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bankai305 View Post
    Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose. current ADS enrage means you can bypass all ADS mechanics, take 3 healers and automatically win, so all the work and effort put into ADS mechanics/design is out of the window, and turn 2 has turned into the new turn 3 but with free loot.

    Tell developers that they should consider adjusting it not because its an exploit people are taking advantage of, but because ADS is a joke now and the fight mechanics are useless
    Don't worry the Dark Devices FATE was not an exploit. But they broke it. :-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Don't worry the Dark Devices FATE was not an exploit. But they broke it. :-P
    Truth. And funnier still they claimed that the DD "adjustment" was an accident and yet it hasn't been fixed yet. Strange! Moot point these days I guess, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bankai305 View Post
    Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose. current ADS enrage means you can bypass all ADS mechanics, take 3 healers and automatically win, so all the work and effort put into ADS mechanics/design is out of the window, and turn 2 has turned into the new turn 3 but with free loot.

    Tell developers that they should consider adjusting it not because its an exploit people are taking advantage of, but because ADS is a joke now and the fight mechanics are useless
    Obviously they are aware that people are able to withstand what the community is calling "enrage" and they don't have a problem with it. They know what "enrage" means because they made it that way. Also, while this strategy may be easier on a technical level, any competent party can defeat the boss in considerably less time by utilizing the normal strategy. Personally i'd rather beat it faster than make an already not very difficult fight easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bankai305 View Post
    Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose.
    I'm so sick of this statement. SE employees kill you when they want to kill you. Primals and Twin come to mind; they know how to make a wipe you enrage and they did not do it for this.

    "Oops! We forgot to make it wipe people!" If they wanted it to one-shot, it would already.

    Edit: Ty for the info, Camate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bankai305 View Post
    Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose. current ADS enrage means you can bypass all ADS mechanics, take 3 healers and automatically win, so all the work and effort put into ADS mechanics/design is out of the window, and turn 2 has turned into the new turn 3 but with free loot.

    Tell developers that they should consider adjusting it not because its an exploit people are taking advantage of, but because ADS is a joke now and the fight mechanics are useless
    It's just a turn 2. It's working as intended like the dev said. If turn 2 can't be done easier than turn 3, why is it turn 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umero View Post
    It's just a turn 2. It's working as intended like the dev said. If turn 2 can't be done easier than turn 3, why is it turn 2?
    T2 is harder than T4 if you do them correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    T2 is harder than T4 if you do them correctly.
    that's exactly why they don't mess with the enrage thing as is. Because it's NOT supposed to be harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    T2 is harder than T4 if you do them correctly.
    It's a lies for those new ppl's who stepped in Coil after enrage strat popped up lol , T4 much harder that t2 (proper) . My team wasted only 3 days for complete T2 , then once we start did good we allways 1 shot it , BUT !! we still having hard time on t4 (idk why , maybe something wrong with us XD)
    Oh and i dont care , SE fix T2 or not , if done this proper once , will do allways... at least if you in static team .
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    Last edited by Vladislav; 01-08-2014 at 11:49 AM.

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