The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[Lunavi]

You seem to be forgetting that a majority of the FFXIV community thought that sleeping Conflags on Twintania was an intended mechanic.

Honestly, the average skill level of players on FFXIV is extremely low compared to other MMOs (particularly World of Warcraft). I don't know why this is, but as a result, they're going to lobby around any sort of exploit that makes encounters manageable for their lack of skills/reaction speed.

XD Lol, now I have read it all... I can tell you that the skilllevel on FFXIV players are NOT lower than WoW players. Not in any way. As far as I remember the instances in that game is balanced so that a party of 1/3rd should be able to beat it nowadays because most people are just N.U.B.s. If by any reason WoW players not do exploids like this it is solely because they lack the imagination/inteligence needed to even think outside the box.

[Sobius]

Shall we also start Q_Q ing about locking out mobs in WP? Obviously not working as intended.

[LenZelpher]

fck that. as far as i see it someone found a smart way to deal with it, without exploiting anything or hacking. just letting you know exploit is abusing a bug, and the enrage is not a bug. Some ppl just feel entitled, and prolly jelly that some1 found a smarter way to down turn 2 than how they've been doing it. definitely seems like the op is pulling reasons out of his ass just to make his argument sound remotely valid >_>"

[Yenn]

fck that. as far as i see it someone found a smart way to deal with it, without exploiting anything or hacking. just letting you know exploit is abusing a bug, and the enrage is not a bug. Some ppl just feel entitled, and prolly jelly that some1 found a smarter way to down turn 2 than how they've been doing it. definitely seems like the op is pulling reasons out of his ass just to make his argument sound remotely valid >_>"

So, why do you think they wasted time implementing those Turn 2 mechanics, if the entire encounter can be trivialized into a tank and spank?

[LenZelpher]

So, why do you think they wasted time implementing those Turn 2 mechanics, if the entire encounter can be trivialized into a tank and spank?

to make those certain ppl that like to do everything hard and stroke their e-penis's about reaction times and "skills" feel good about themselves.

[Shirai]

I really fail to see how it destroys pugging T4. There's no reason a tank can't do T4 on any given week. Unless you're trying to argue that they need the gear from there, but even that would be wrong.

I agree here, please explain how rage moding T2 destroys T4 pugs.
Because last I checked anyone that has coil unlocked can, at any time, tag along on any turn without any previous clears, where the only consequence is that you are being locked out of the earlier turns for the remainder of the week.

For now, the only "dire consequence" I see is that people are getting some Turn 2 drops. The humanity!
[Insert a highly exaggerated rant on how the picture of my prefect world is destroyed and my dreams are being smashed.]

So, why do you think they wasted time implementing those Turn 2 mechanics, if the entire encounter can be trivialized into a tank and spank?

I don't have that answer to that and I still expect it to be fixed.
It's just a question of when.

[SecsyMancat]

Dev straight up said WP was working as intended. not much you can do to argue about that. also it's not on a weekly lockout so it's not unbalancing anything if people do lockout mobs. The problem with T2 isn't what it does to T2, it's how it destroys pugging T4.

[Viridiana]

Dev straight up said WP was working as intended. not much you can do to argue about that. also it's not on a weekly lockout so it's not unbalancing anything if people do lockout mobs. The problem with T2 isn't what it does to T2, it's how it destroys pugging T4.

I really fail to see how it destroys pugging T4. There's no reason a tank can't do T4 on any given week. Unless you're trying to argue that they need the gear from there, but even that would be wrong.

[Ashira]

I'm curious on where everyone here sits with burning down Caduceus before the stacks become a problem, since by the logic that's being passed around here; you're technically bypassing a mechanic there too.

[Viridiana]

I'm curious on where everyone here sits with burning down Caduceus before the stacks become a problem, since by the logic that's being passed around here; you're technically bypassing a mechanic there too.

Or killing Psychoflayer before he can summon all his golems, or killing Demon Wall before bees spawn, or ignoring catastrophe on Anatsabooga. . .

But, no, the three I listed can't possibly be exploits! After all, that's only 4-man content.