Whats the big issue with dps pulling mobs?

[ShinigamiB06]

If you are pulling because the tank isnt fast enough, there is also the chance he might not be ready, and you die. Even one death because of this blows your optimization argument out of the water. Though I do think there was a big boost to some of the emnity builders for the tank classes.

I may be reading to much into it, but something about your post rubs me the wrong way. It's like you are implying that your speed is the "correct" speed.

White knight much? There is a "correct" speed. It's the speed agreed upon the team members, or at least the majority of them. These occasions that im talking about are mostly when we agree pre dungeon that we are doing a speed run and the tank doesnt do it. And i have never been inconsiderate about it. Whenever i pull, i make sure everyone in the party is well equipped and able to handle a speed run. If three people go in expecting a speed run and the tank isnt doing it, then im not the one at fault.

[Amyas]

White knight much? There is a "correct" speed. It's the speed agreed upon the team members, or at least the majority of them. These occasions that im talking about are mostly when we agree pre dungeon that we are doing a speed run and the tank doesnt do it. And i have never been inconsiderate about it. Whenever i pull, i make sure everyone in the party is well equipped and able to handle a speed run. If three people go in expecting a speed run and the tank isnt doing it, then im not the one at fault.

Well if everyone save the tank 'agreed to a speedrun' before hand, maybe you should find a tank that wants a speed run? I love shooting down DF scrubs in WP trying to push me to 'sr'. Sit back, deeps, wait for your tomes, non-tank plebian. Run ahead and pull? That's a vote kick. Not enough people to vote you out? GL with no tank, my connection may suddenly get a bit 'spotty' if you catch my drift...

Edit: If I know you, its fine, go crazy, heck I may go crazy too and pull the rest of the place while you're at it. If I don't... you dun messed up your dungeon run boyo.

[Avalon_Albrook]

White knight much? There is a "correct" speed. It's the speed agreed upon the team members, or at least the majority of them. These occasions that im talking about are mostly when we agree pre dungeon that we are doing a speed run and the tank doesnt do it. And i have never been inconsiderate about it. Whenever i pull, i make sure everyone in the party is well equipped and able to handle a speed run. If three people go in expecting a speed run and the tank isnt doing it, then im not the one at fault.

Dude, no. A speed run does not exist unless the entire party is okay with it. Everyone but the tank going into a run saying "yay speed run!" means there will be no speed run. If that's your attitude, then any tank worth his/her salt should (and hopefully will) let you die. Deeps need to learn hard lessons.

[Lukahn]

White knight much? There is a "correct" speed. It's the speed agreed upon the team members, or at least the majority of them. These occasions that im talking about are mostly when we agree pre dungeon that we are doing a speed run and the tank doesnt do it. And i have never been inconsiderate about it. Whenever i pull, i make sure everyone in the party is well equipped and able to handle a speed run. If three people go in expecting a speed run and the tank isnt doing it, then im not the one at fault.

White knight? No. There was nothing in your first post that implied this very specific scenario. For all we knew, you were saying that you just pull things when you think the tank was going to slow in every single dungeon. I figured it could be a misunderstanding.