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  1. #1021
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    Pompey Dan
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    405 accuracy for 2 hours of extreme ifrit farming = 0 misses lol
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  2. 12-30-2013 02:30 PM

  3. #1022
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    Zhem Matar
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    Faerie
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Why would you use the Allagan Earrings of Striking (16 crit and 11 skill speed) over the Tremor Earrings of Striking (11 crit and 11 det) in the Pre T5 BIS list?
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  4. #1023
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    Shin Yuki
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 80
    So much text...
    Any plans for a video tutorial that explains this all?
    Like the different scenarios, normal grinding, bossing etc etc.

    On another note which cross-class skills should I have at 50?
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    Last edited by Aramaki; 12-30-2013 at 07:32 PM.

  5. #1024
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Internal release<<<<<<<<

    I also keep on mercy stroke cuz it's a semi-useful, off-GCD damage boost and foresight has never saved me . . .
    I also keep on second wind and bloodbath for when I screw up, then I don't need a cure... I should probably change those.
    A lot of people have dropped fracture, but I've kept mine on because i'm lazy.
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  6. #1025
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    Krystal Frost
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph311 View Post
    Why would you use the Allagan Earrings of Striking (16 crit and 11 skill speed) over the Tremor Earrings of Striking (11 crit and 11 det) in the Pre T5 BIS list?
    Because with the new weights the Allagan Earrings of Striking have a score of 4,6~ while the Tremor Earrings of Striking have a score of 4,2~. Shouldn't be much difference though.
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  7. #1026
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Giving skill speed a weight seems rather odd. It does absolutely nothing for you if it doesn't drop your GCD. For example, I've got 42 skill speed in gear, but I'm fairly certain at least 2 points of it are making no contribution at all.
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  8. #1027
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    Giving skill speed a weight seems rather odd. It does absolutely nothing for you if it doesn't drop your GCD. For example, I've got 42 skill speed in gear, but I'm fairly certain at least 2 points of it are making no contribution at all.
    It probably "does but the UI doesn't show it".
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  9. #1028
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I can't see shaving .002(?) seconds actually doing anything useful, even over a long fight. Twintania is a 13 minute fight? That extra skill speed shaves off 1.56 seconds over the entire course of the fight. Not even giving you another GCD to use.
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  10. #1029
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    1. After 20 seconds of consecutive attacks, you've saved roughly 0.016 seconds. If you have to run into a conflag or whatever, you have a 0.016 / 2.46 = 0.7% chance to get an extra full GCD off before freezing. After 40 seconds, that chance increases to 1.3%. And that's from ... "2" SS.

    2. It's not like crit is much better. 2 points of CRT is something like 0.14% chance for +50% damage.

    3. SS is still our worst stat, but it has value.

    In any case, stat weights aren't really there to try to make a decision for you on "2" of any offstat. Hell you can't even choose "2" skill speed. If you want to manually micromanage every gear decision per your own specific breakpoints (e.g. 42 SS is only worth "40" SS to you ... ??), that's fine. The stat weights are there to guide a gearing strategy where you are comparing 15-30 chunks of different secondary stats.
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  11. #1030
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    Augustus Stormborne
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    Lamia
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KrystalF View Post
    That's hitting the cap with food. This is the BiS with buttons.From my understanding the fact that deviled eggs are so good is because +5% crit is much more than +5% det.
    In my opinion and from what Ive seen running my script a bunch of times at different accuracy values. The 7-9 or so accuracy points you get from hq Deviled eggs outweighs the dps boost you get from Buttons in a Blanket. Using EMX's new stat weights a close to BiS set would get approximately 4.746* dps weight out of hq buttons, and 3.938* weight out of hq eggs.

    (*these numbers are based on your gear/stats etc since it is % based)

    The difference between the two foods is around (0.7-0.8). Let's say you swapped out one or two pieces of gear to get to the accuracy cap, you would lose far more than 0.7 to 0.8 dps weight. Thus in my opinion it is better to use deviled eggs to get to the accuracy cap.
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