Serious problems with PvP across the board

[Nenin]

Stun multiple people? If my team has no sleep, then yeah I'll stun anyone I pass (I try not to stray far from the healer). If we do have sleep, you often end up hitting a target as someone sleeps it so I don't unless it's pre-discussed.

Aso if the match drags on, you run out of tp and shield costs 150tp has mentioned.

A full duration Shield Bash is often better than an easily broken sleep mid-game. It's a godsend when a PLD runs over and and stuns the people who are repeatedly smacking my face. It allows me to Sleep/Freeze them without Swiftcast or Surecast. Instead of having to use them defensively I can hit someone with a Surecasted Fire or Fire III and Swiftcast a Flare.

It's equally helpful to do this for healers and SMN for analogous reasons.

Also - buy a ton of TP consumables. They are dirt cheap and 300 TP every 1.5m isn't bad.

[Omagana]

A full duration Shield Bash is often better than an easily broken sleep mid-game. It's a godsend when a PLD runs over and and stuns the people who are repeatedly smacking my face. It allows me to Sleep/Freeze them without Swiftcast or Surecast. Instead of having to use them defensively I can hit someone with a Surecasted Fire or Fire III and Swiftcast a Flare.

It's equally helpful to do this for healers and SMN for analogous reasons.

Agreed, which is why I'll do it. But it's like cover, sometimes only works if the person doesn't kite away from you. There's a ton of stuff you can do if there's coordination.

[Sirloveless]

I love how most peoples troll replies is "l2p" "newb to pvp". It makes me laugh. The PvP in the game even though it took them longer to release still feels like an after thought and rushed thrown together. Im sure Ill get flamed by the trolls saying the same shit "l2p newb QQ more" ect ect. But compared to games with good PvP or games with PvP as its main focus the PvP in XIV is and probably will remain a joke for the most part until they make some major over hauls.

[eternalstar01]

From how it read before I expected a whole new independent skill set for PvP than PvE. Not just the same skills and additional ones unlocked.

Then any changes would have ZERO affect on the other playstyle. And made balancing the classes a helluva lot easier.

Unfortunatelly they didn't do it as I, obviously, misunderstood prior to 2.1 :/

I also misunderstood. I was so excited that the two sides of the game wouldn't conflict with each other. I was so sad when I entered my first match.

[FritzCatnip]

They've got until this subscription runs out to address the obviously screwed up balance issues or I'm taking my friends to another game. There's too many good ones out there to suffer through bad PvP and have to read the idiot fan boy nonsense in the forums. I hate game forums, they become infested with fan boy sycophants that steer lazy devs the wrong direction. I fought their ilk for years in various games, but it's not worth it anymore since there are plenty of games out there that offer a far better product.

I'm sick of the goofy cut scenes and abuse to my mouse every time I do a quest. My reviews on this game is last century called, they want their game technology back. If things don't change, we're taking our money elsewhere. I will see to it personally.

[seraph1m]

i disagree wow was a pve focused game yet the pvp in burning crusade and wotlk were worthy of being entered into mlg they did it very well so it can be done

[MDC]

No, I need the time, I have 1min cooldowns that will reset during that time. It could be reduced to 90 seconds but it is valuable time and should not be wasted.

All of your abilities are reset upon entering.

[neoreturn]

I agree op 100%.

[seraph1m]

Sorry, I'm not trolling. Could you explain to me how SMN is a "utility" class? One strong debuff spell and raise does not a utility class make.

You're stupid. If you *spam* it, you will make everyone you hit resistant to disease and end up negating the very effect you're trying to inflict.

if u think summoners are balanced why are u even worried about what people say just ignore it and move on. more likley scenario know u are overpowered and see the shadow of the great nerf bat approaching and trying to avoid it

[astrobearthe2nd]

i disagree wow was a pve focused game yet the pvp in burning crusade and wotlk were worthy of being entered into mlg they did it very well so it can be done

LMAO

did you used WoW, a prime example of of a mmo screwing over its pve side so badly that some classes became COMPLETELY NONVIABLE IN NEITHER CONTENT,in it sad attempts to balance pvp, as your point? ya no, sorry ...try again, balance between pve and pvp cant be done as one side will always scream "OP" or "OMG Y U NERF" because the other side doesnt like the current class balance. what i assumed how ffxiv would handle this issue is by give each ability a pve/pvp effect in, like sleep would work different in pvp by having a lower duration, while the pve time would remain untouched. LOL apparently i was wrong.

if u think summoners are balanced why are u even worried about what people say just ignore it and move on. more likley scenario know u are overpowered and see the shadow of the great nerf bat approaching and trying to avoid it

he is probably worried because if you enough ppl start screaming for nerf, the devs will most likely cave in...look at what happen to brd dps...and whm healing.....and casters in pvp.