I like many others here would rather stab my own eyes out than camp fates. I am not against them being in the game in the least but I am very strongly against them being in quests that are required to reach other content or finish a storyline. I want to avoid them and let those who like them enjoy them. What is so wrong with this? SE has taken a good idea of having a system of leveling that is optional and made it a requirement to access content. Seasonal events I have no problem with being fates, I find them boring and wont chase them. All I would miss out on by avoiding them is an outfit not content access which is the missing key between the two sides for me.