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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Please stop putting holidays/events inside Fates

    Fates are not fun, the majority of players do not like fates at all. I absolutely despise fates, this is coming from someone who ran off and did every single event in GW2 and absolutely loved the event system(aka fates) in GW2 and wanted to do every single one everytime they were up.

    Fix your horrible fate system, make them actually interesting, chain, effect the world, last more than 5 seconds, scale, and not be gigantic zerg fests. Then, and only then, are you allowed to keep using these.

    Go play Guild Wars 2, see what a dynamic enjoyable event system is, see how to actually make a fun, interesting system. Go do the tequatl event, see how to make a truely challenging world event.

    I will repeat again: The majority of players do NOT like your fate system, stop using it, please.

    Thanks for reading our feedback!
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    Tahldon's Avatar
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    Tahldon Boyoikoh
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    My cure for the whole FATE ordeal is to simply not do it when they first come out. Everyone and their granddad joins in on them and it's always a big mess.

    I waited until the last possible day to do the Lightning FATEs and it was a pretty good deal at that point without the herd tagging along.

    Not that this changes your decision or anything, I just felt the need to share, is all. Needless to say, FATEs are more enjoyable after everyone's had their fill.
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

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    Naelle's Avatar
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    Robin Gunn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Fates are not fun, the majority of players do not like fates at all. I absolutely despise fates, this is coming from someone who ran off and did every single event in GW2 and absolutely loved the event system(aka fates) in GW2 and wanted to do every single one everytime they were up.

    Fix your horrible fate system, make them actually interesting, chain, effect the world, last more than 5 seconds, scale, and not be gigantic zerg fests. Then, and only then, are you allowed to keep using these.

    Go play Guild Wars 2, see what a dynamic enjoyable event system is, see how to actually make a fun, interesting system. Go do the tequatl event, see how to make a truely challenging world event.

    I will repeat again: The majority of players do NOT like your fate system, stop using it, please.

    Thanks for reading our feedback!
    I like that you used Tequatl as an example because it's literally just stand on his foot and spam aoe (every skill in that game just about).

    I do, however, agree that events in FATEs could stand to be throttled back. One or two maybe but I'd like an actual quest chain.
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    While waiting 90 minutes for a FATE to spawn last night I ended up making a ton of friends while chatting it up / waiting for it to pop. And this took me back and made me realize part of why I loved FFXI's HNM / NM system. When you have nothing to do for an hour+ on end you start chatting it up and making friends / building the community.

    If only they could mash up the two systems without turning it into a RMT game :\

    Well either way they are fixing the spawn times on those FATEs but yes in general the FATE system is not ideal IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Fates are not fun, the majority of players do not like fates at all.

    I will repeat again: The majority of players do NOT like your fate system, stop using it, please.

    Thanks for reading our feedback!
    You know this for a fact that the majority don't like fates? Also it is "my" feedback not "our" feedback, you do not speak for anybody but yourself.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    This holiday event was the epitome of lazy holiday quest design. Gigantic FATE, no quest. That's it.

    Please make them worth our time, or don't do them at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eunys View Post
    You know this for a fact that the majority don't like fates? Also it is "your" feedback not "our" feedback, you do not speak for anybody but yourself.
    No one in their right mind likes to do FATEs.... people just "dealt with it" because it was the fastest way to level up. Now that they fixed up the dungeons a bit, less and less people will be participating in FATEs.

    And for event FATEs ... yeah well we have no choices lol
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    FATEs should be used for NM world encounters and chained events that can change or alter the environment (temporary unsafe areas kind of like Svara though that's a poor example). They should never be used in quest progression, unless the quest can trigger them. There is no reason why hundreds of people should have to camp a spawn point for hours and days on end to complete these events just to complete quests or unlock content.

    Fair enough, SE want FATEs to be more important than just leveling and farming tools, but forcing them on players in order to progress without any way to get them to pop aside from camping is not fun, it's painful, useless and aggravating. The option of waiting until the rush is over and doing them later is valid, but only because it is currently necessary as lots of people don't have the time to camp FATEs. It should never be necessary to avoid quest progression as a valid way of completing content.
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    Blah FATEs was all well good until they put EVERY Event as a FATE and started forcing them into quests...now I Can't stand them I feel they are more of a chore and lack fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaize View Post
    Blah FATEs was all well good until they put EVERY Event as a FATE and started forcing them into quests...now I Can't stand them I feel they are more of a chore and lack fun
    Part of me thinks FATEs are being used beyond the original scope planned by the DEVs of this game. Example: The maintenance tonight to increase the quest related FATEs to spawn more.

    (assumption):
    They have to do this hotfix because they probably had some overall FATE restrictions per zone to only allow X to spawn in a Y period of time. Now that they keep adding more FATEs to spawn they are running into issues where FATEs aren't spawning as fast as they should be... because the queue of that handles which FATE spawns is getting full basically.
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