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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I love how everyone defending the gimp status of White mage's all main Scholar. I am a scholar main since day one of ARR and will be tilt he day my character dies virtually from my leaving the game but I am not blind at the woe of the white class right now. My Bahamut Coil group uses two Scholars because one was smart enough to reroll white mage seeing this train wreck incoming. Within one month from now if you did a character search of all white mages and scholars you will see the scholar outnumber white mage by 5x. For now the white mage has outnubmered the scholar but that is at an end. Even with the limit break nerf to class stacking the min/max decision will go the double scholar route.
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    SulwynCaliope's Avatar
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    I love how everyone defending the gimp status of White mage's all main Scholar. I am a scholar main since day one of ARR and will be tilt he day my character dies virtually from my leaving the game but I am not blind at the woe of the white class right now. My Bahamut Coil group uses two Scholars because one was smart enough to reroll white mage seeing this train wreck incoming. Within one month from now if you did a character search of all white mages and scholars you will see the scholar outnumber white mage by 5x. For now the white mage has outnubmered the scholar but that is at an end. Even with the limit break nerf to class stacking the min/max decision will go the double scholar route.
    It's not about defending the "gimp" status of the WHM now. It's pointing out that things aren't nearly as bad as WHMs (and you) are making it seem like. Medica II got changed (note I said changed and not really nerfed). It still has it's HoT effect but it got extended over a longer period of time. It does change how a WHM uses the skill but it affects that skill and that skill only.

    Here's the key part that everyone seems to be forgetting. NOTHING ELSE ABOUT WHITEMAGE HAS CHANGED. White mages are still going to pour out fatter heals more consistently than SCHs. They're STILL going to raid heal BETTER than SCHs. I'm so sick and tired of WHMs acting like their class got nerfed to the ground when what happened was ONE TINY CHANGE to ONE RAID HEAL. As far as I'm concerned only BRDs and maybe SMNs have a right to be crying rivers of tears.
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    Eriane's Avatar
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    Ire Valkyr
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    It's not about defending the "gimp" status of the WHM now. It's pointing out that things aren't nearly as bad as WHMs (and you) are making it seem like. Medica II got changed (note I said changed and not really nerfed). It still has it's HoT effect but it got extended over a longer period of time. It does change how a WHM uses the skill but it affects that skill and that skill only.

    Here's the key part that everyone seems to be forgetting. NOTHING ELSE ABOUT WHITEMAGE HAS CHANGED. White mages are still going to pour out fatter heals more consistently than SCHs. They're STILL going to raid heal BETTER than SCHs. I'm so sick and tired of WHMs acting like their class got nerfed to the ground when what happened was ONE TINY CHANGE to ONE RAID HEAL. As far as I'm concerned only BRDs and maybe SMNs have a right to be crying rivers of tears.
    What you fail to grasp is that sch were fine, borderline better in the first place before changes.
    A sch microing the fairy would put many whm to shame in effectiveness in coil. Lest we forget that t5 in particular seems to favor sch mechanics, like lustrate not being affected by healing debuffs. This is not about player skill, it is about the toolkit and mana/threat management.

    Now with pet fixes sch is even easier to manage. Whm raid healing is not what was nerfed, the mana efficiency and threat is what took a hit. And both were bad to begin with compared to sch. What was buffed was whm burst aoe healing (which still requires a raid to stack) which isn't even required in turn 1-5.
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    Last edited by Eriane; 12-17-2013 at 01:00 PM. Reason: Why else? because 1000 char limit is silly.