So.. who's leveling a SCH?

[vpc]

Yes, WHM is now completely useless, I can't even image parting with one right now, it's even worse than 2.0 WAR OMG. I hope I don't get WHM for CT cuz I'm totallly dumping down the party then.


For those who don't get it, this is sarcasm.

Whatever group you run with is obviously not about efficiency, it's ok I know some people like to just make things harder for themselves for no reason at all

[tOnni3]

o/ me lvling SCH but my main is BRD :3

[Kuroyasha]

....Oh noooos they gave another class a buff and changed me medica 2 now I dont wanna play my class anymore ....T_T.....>_>....-_-.

[vpc]

....Oh noooos they gave another class a buff and changed me medica 2 now I dont wanna play my class anymore ....T_T.....>_>....-_-.

Spoken like a true DPStard that knows nothing about healing

[Kuroyasha]

Spoken like a true DPStard that knows nothing about healing

Spoken like a true derp who doesn't know how to look characters up on lodestone. A few simple clicks would've shown you I'm not only a dps, but a healer (and a WHM at that) as well. Was that too complicated for you to do? Oh wait that's right, you wanted to hurry and reply b/c you were sure you had the perfect comeback right? right? Fail derp a derp.

[Kuroyasha]

Actually I did, but it's fairly obvious that you main BLM over WHM..are you doing Coil with your WHM? Because I don't think you do if you don't see how this is a huge nerf =) Really wish people who don't main classes would stfu about changes to it. YOu probably don't know how to use it 100% efficiently and are probably the reason it got nerfed anyways...probably one of the ones spamming it over and over and getting hate, wasting mana, using it before next set of adds spawn..lmao..

How was it fairly obvious what I main hm? When you responded to me the only thing that showed on my lodestone was weaver gear, which means the only thing you wouldve seen was the levels of my classes. You tried to look tight, and ended up saying something stupid. So now you try to divert the stupidness by asking other questions. Probably this, Probably that to make yourself feel better. Fail derp a derp.

[Kyomih]

Ok, just to put things in perspective again: Yes the changes suck and I think they aren't going to work out like they imagined and the balance between SCH and WHM has been badly put out of balance but WHMs will still be used and are still a very viable healer to play.

[Lilysparkle]

This thread is extraordinary. I think the servers may be up now (or will be soon), but for the majority of this thread they weren't. It's astonishing the psychological impact patch notes have on ppls' minds. You're all arguing so focusedly but none of you have even got to try out the changes yet. It's like being given a menu for a restaurant you're about to enter, and you're all having a big argument about which meal is going to be "better". ;x

If you were previously a WHM and now want to play SCH as a result of these changes, that's your choice of course, but I'm just so surprised it took such small changes to compel you to do that. Say goodbye to your better stoneskin, fluid aura, sleep(!), spellspeed buff and aoe stun (which only lost a tiny bit of potency). (None of us also know what the animation changes are going to be like either)

What's kind of telling is that, apart from the Lustrate change (which I don't think it really needed -- and remember that a 25% Lustrate on a 3500 hp DPS is about 875 hp cured, depending on your gear, so it's just an instant cast Physick usually, or less, even. With the original 20% it was even less, and made it most efficient to use on a tank), SCH is pretty much the same as it was. Oh but no Thunder now, too. Anyway so if you were really going to lvl SCH because it's 'fun', why hadn't you already prior to all this?

I personally think ppl will log in, play around a bit on their WHMs and realise it's not so bad and that nothing really has changed fundamentally, and will continue to keep playing WHM (but hide the fact that they made a fuss about it )

[Eriane]

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Its not hard to apply the changes to the game mechanics we already know exist.

Sch was great before the patch.

BUT the fairy deciding to blow cd's, not being macroable, and occasionally being bugged with overwriting buffs, (selene) etc. were enough of a reason to not main sch. Sometimes she would blow wd before i could resteady her and also i didnt like that if i put her on steady too early it canceled the cast. Placing was a solution but if i was going to play a sch i wanted to be able to micro the pet.

Now i can macro the pet, assuming they don't mess up pet fixes, I'm hoping i can get the full use out of the fairy and have fun with it. Is that hard to understand?

I would still play both, but say goodbye to a long cast stoneskin that costs as much as cure 2? Yay shields. k. fluid aura?... i use it for fun. Sleep? lol. Pom that is on a 5 min cd? Hey, at least i will get the fairy mini haste when she crits. I will miss holy but i already do.

Now i have lustrate which is actually instant unlike benediction and not on a 5 min cd. However will i live with myself?

At least for me, i prefer a proactive healing playstyle. On my whm i time heals to land when damage lands, i use stoneskin. I use regen sparringly and watch my threat. But there is only so much i can do with a toolkit designed to react to something. Yes i can fill a health bar and big numbers are nice, but the sch toolkit is more varied. I mean, do whm really need 3 different aoe heals? Part of the issue is our spells overlap in use, but using more spells isn't the answer on a class that suffers from overhealing and poor mana management.

[AishaK]

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Well using your restaurant comparison. we healers went to the grand opening of the 2.1 restaurant the whm's ordered delicious white mage tartare. Scholars of course ordered scholar burgers. The chef Yoshi comes out and presents the meal, at first look everything seems alright. Then suddenly cries ring out across the gathering of healers, the whm's have discovered that on top of their delicious dinner the chef has spat a phlem covered projectile into the food.

the scholars on the other hand discover the burger to be extremely juicy with imported buns. At this point a racket breaks loose, half the scholars sympathize and demand the chef be held accountable, the other half tell the white mages that their food is perfectly fine bile and all to eat their meal and shut up. some white mages do just that, others quit the restaurant entirely in disgust. Finally a last group orders the burger