Summoner got destroyed this patch

[Madoka]

Ruin2 is not off GCD, using Ruin+Ruin2 is still two GCDs. There is literally no reason to use Ruin 2 in any rotation

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Using Ruin 2 is going to screw with a Tank's option to blind in the hopes of avoiding some damage. just take the second of down time moving out of an AoE or use it to cast Fester if it's off CD.

It's fine in crap dungeons, but never use Ruin 2 in coil or primals. Let the tank help themselves with Flash.

[PriyaJugulataris]

Ruin2 is not off GCD, using Ruin+Ruin2 is still two GCDs. There is literally no reason to use Ruin 2 in any rotation

Well if you want to blind pre Titan's table flip, I ain't gonna be mad. Also guys, quote from the developers.
"As I mentioned during the previous LIVE letter, there are a lot of cases where melee combos and chains are interrupted making burst DPS difficult, so dragoon and monk will be receiving roughly a 10% increase in damage per second. Rather than reducing the effectiveness of other classes, we will be making adjustments to increase certain elements this time."
I lol'd

[OmegaNovaios]

Ruin2 is not off GCD, using Ruin+Ruin2 is still two GCDs. There is literally no reason to use Ruin 2 in any rotation

You can replace Ruin with Ruin II if you need to move while doing your rotation since it's instant cast. This will apply at any time during the rotation, as instead of casting a DOT you simply use Ruin II and cast the next spell in your rotation afterwards and omit a Ruin from the end of your rotation. This effectively makes it so your rotation doesn't lose DPS (or at least very much DPS) if you compare it to say BLM.

Also, Ruin II can be used to close a burst or for the kill shot since it's instant cast, which can end a fight or push or thwart a mechanic from occurring. Such as on Turn 5 Conflag. Let's say the Conflag will blow up in 2 seconds and has 1 HP left. If you cast Ruin then it will blow up before you finish the cast, but if you use Ruin II then it dies 1.5 seconds before then.

[Roy_M]

Ruin2 is not off GCD, using Ruin+Ruin2 is still two GCDs. There is literally no reason to use Ruin 2 in any rotation

Actually I like to use Ruin2 over Ruin 1 if my MP allows it since I could use skills that ignores GCD like Fester-Virus-Spur-Energy Drain and so on it also blinds the target that helps the tank somehow, than the time it takes to cast Ruin 1 but I guess it s about preference

[xardus]

Ruin2 is not off GCD, using Ruin+Ruin2 is still two GCDs. There is literally no reason to use Ruin 2 in any rotation

mmh..how you play summoner?LOL
uding ruin1 then ruin2 you have gcd where you can use fester,Energydrain,rouse\spur\enkindle\bane\virus\an eye for an eye...there are lots of think you can do in that gcd time after ruin2,and that why we have to use sometime

[PriyaJugulataris]

K so ruin II has it uses, but there's a debate on either side due to the mana cost. No need to question someone's ability because they don't use a vastly debated skill.

[xardus]

K so ruin II has it uses, but there's a debate on either side due to the mana cost. No need to question someone's ability because they don't use a vastly debated skill.

sure,ruin2 shouldnt be spammed around as hell hehe,just when you have to cast fester or other non gcd spell to maximise you dps,in this way you dont waste your mana