Summoner got destroyed this patch

[xardus]

On average you can use 1 stack of Aetherflow per rotation and you can use Ruin/Ruin II about 3 times between DOTs every rotation. Pet Potency doesn't work exactly when compared to Character Potency DMG isn't so easy to calculate. For example Garuda's 100 Potency attack is about 70% stronger than Ifrit's 120 Potency Attack (not including Ifrit's Auto-Attack). However Ifrit's 120 Potency Attack + Auto-Attack = Garuda's 100 Potency Attack (no Auto-Attack available).

Bio: Potency 40/tick Duration 18s (6 ticks) Total Potency = 240
Miasma: Potency 20 + Potency 35/tick Duration 24s (8 ticks) Total Potency = 300
Bio II: Potency 35/tick Duration 30s (10 ticks) Total Potency = 350
Thunder: Potency 30 + Potency 35/tick Duration 18s (6 ticks) Total Potency = 240
Shadow Flare: Potency 25/tick Duration 30s (10 ticks) Total Potency = 250
Energy Drain: Potency 150
Fester: Potency 300 (max)
Ruin/RuinII x3 (w/Thunder) and x4 (w/o Thunder): Potency 240 and 320

i dont understand a thing and that confusing me about ur maths LOL
why you can do ruid\ruin2 x3? thunder has 2.5 cast time as ruin,you can do max 1 ruin and 1 ruin2 in that time,with a gcd to use for fester or rouse\spur

and you are not considering that we have to stay close to the target using blizzard,so you cant use in most boss fights,and we still dont know if mana cost for summoner is the same of blm,we cant take benefits from umbrella ice so we will have a good loss of mana spamming it, 3xthunder are 646 mana over 18 seconds ,blizzard can be used often but forces us to run under mob,cast blizzard,cast miasma,run back,same reason for what we dont use so often miasma2,im trying to change my gamestyle to introduce miasma in every fights but i cant do easily on T1,unthinkable in t2,t3...no one cares titan is the only think we need lol,t4 is the only place where we really need miasma2 and now blizzard,but im still worried about mana usage,we have so less mana than blm and if we want to keep up our mana we cant use fester

[Raiker]

i dont understand a thing and that confusing me about ur maths LOL
why you can do ruid\ruin2 x3? thunder has 2.5 cast time as ruin,you can do max 1 ruin and 1 ruin2 in that time,with a gcd to use for fester or rouse\spur

Oh, thunder's potential was not based off of a single target, it was based of off each target it hit. You can apply thunder on several targets vs. smacking one with ruin/ruin 2. What Omega was trying to point out is that we're weaker by 5% or whatever that number is based on 2~4 mobs, but the damage regarding 5+ mobs has been increased.

[xardus]

oh...i missed that point lol thx hehehe
anyway i added an edit on my post with more considerations

[OmegaNovaios]

Ruin/Ruin II x3 means that you can cast either of those spells 3 times before the rotation of DOTs needs to be re-applied in a simple rotation. So my rotation includes 3 Ruin casts. I'm not including any CDs in this as they can be applied at any time and that affects DMG at that time globally which will affect your DPS, but that's not necessary to compare actions. Applying CDs will leave us with the same ratio of increase or decrease in DPS when comparing actions in most cases and it just makes it way more complicated.

[OmegaNovaios]

On bosses you won't be using Blizzard II in your single target rotation. Miasma II is only good for single target if used with Contagion and most of the time isn't worth the time it takes to run toward the target and back out of the way even if you work it in well between casts or during instant casts. Blizzard II won't affect our MP management any more than casting Thunder on multiple targets. Being able to use Blizzard II up close for AOEs will be the same as using Miasma II, even during boss fights if your skilled you can do it well. If you can't then don't worry about it. Staying alive is more important for sustaining DPS than maximizing DMG every second.