Updates: FFXI and FFXIV, a comparison

[Xeno]

Because Crystal Tools blows and because Tanaka made sure that there was not a single aspect of the game that didn't need to be completely redesigned.

Crystal tools is optimized for the consoles, and I bet if Tanaka had another 6-9 months the game would have been pretty good at launch because he would have realized how bad it was and we wouldn't have to deal with the team swap. Remember the first 2011 update check list thing? that was like an expansion worth of content.

[Betelgeuzah]

9 months after launch and 5 months after "Mister Miracle Patch" took over, yes. But another poster beat me to it:

So just have faith?

More like "so just listen to what the *** the developers -have said-". Unlike last time, when faith was indeed needed (and just as useful in the end).

Because, like, chocobos are intricately related. Amongst each other, and to the materia system. So it's just logical we have to wait until they introduce the materia system to ride chocobos?

They are fixing the combat system and everything related to it before working on chocobos (because only 30k people give a *** at this point). You are meaningless, you are unnecessary and you nor anyone here is not their primary concern for a good reason. Deal with it.

If there was evidence they are actually working on "everything else imaginable" I could bear brown, black, brown-black striped, blackish-brown and brownish-black marmots a little longer. Maybe even for a couple of days.

Oh, I don't know, only evidence is what the devs have said for the past 5 months? It's as clear as your ignorance at this point.

I hope no developer ever ready the BS Betel writes.

oh, they don't have to. They need to deal with the reality on a daily basis, they know all this painfully well. Meanwhile I am merely giving a glimpse of the real world to people like you who live in a land of dreams and wonders where you can shape a reality of your own. The less you know, the easier it is.

Also lol@Wolfie's comment. When you lack an argument the next best thing is to look down on the opponent. Brilliant.

[Rinsui]

Magical "bold" feature, gogo!

evidence is what the devs have said for the past 5 months. It's as clear as your ignorance at this point.

Said, not done. That's my point. Thanks for the assist.

They are fixing the combat system and everything related to it before working on chocobos (because only 30k people give a *** at this point). You are meaningless, you are unnecessary and you nor anyone here is not their primary concern for a good reason. Deal with it.

...because only 30k people are left, yes. Because the others already realized that not only Beteljuice, but also SE thinks their outspoken opinion is meaningless and unnecessary. Good luck bringing in new MMORPG players who do not read reviews and forums.

You are a relict, Betel. One among a hundred faithful who still believe that giving a bad developer the benefit of the doubt will entice him to do his best. Or that waiting patiently in a corner will give you a chance of survival.

[Betelgeuzah]

Magical "bold" feature, gogo!

Said, not done. That's my point. Thanks for the assist.

So your amazing argument is that nothing is in the making if they only talk about it. One day it'll magically appear in the game.

Well, not like I didn't expect this.

...because only 30k people are left, yes. Because the others already realized that not only Beteljuice, but also SE thinks their outspoken opinion is meaningless and unnecessary.

People left because the game is ***. And SE is working on fixing a broken game to bring them back asap, not adding chocobos to a broken game asap. You do realize if SE wasn't doing this they wouldn't be adding chocobos, right? They would have closed the shop, because you are meaningless.

You are a relict, Betel. One among a hundred faithful who still believe that giving a bad developer the benefit of the doubt will entice him to do his best. Or that waiting patiently in a corner will give you a chance of survival.

Yes, I've noticed that the number of people capable of logical thinking is going down each and every day.

There is no benefit of the doubt. I am not saying that these changes will be good. I am not saying that it will be enough. I am saying that you nor me have the slightest clue about their efforts before they are implemented. You posting *** on the forums in the meantime won't make them work any harder, any better or any longer. All it does is make this place smell more than it already does.

[Prevbean]

Alternatively, "fanboys" shouldn't waste their time arguing with people like you who play a game they hate and whine all day on the forums as if someone is forcing you to play this awful game. I don't think Square's fail is acceptable at all but if you're not willing to be patient, then leave. The devs need constructive, valuable feedback they can use, not whining about how slow patches are or demanding specific dates and details for every little thing to come in the next six months.

I have like 9 post on this forum in what about 9 months this game has been out ? ...Good argument you have there hahah.
Patient ????? It's been 9 freaking months that's not being patient that's being mind controlled to have that much patience when you see low budget garbage mmo companies turning out more content than a huge , giant company like SE.

That's all the devs got were constructive feedback hell even in freaking alpha they got feedback they chose to ignore or give us vague answers like " we will look into it". That's suppose to be acceptable for a supposed Huuuge company and name brand like the Final Fantasy series who is in dire , desperate, alarming need to fix a broken game is 9 months of nothing but minor additions? This doesn't alarm you make you concerned at all???

I won't even mention how long the game was under development and it still lacks all the basics from an old ps2 MMO they made in the past.

That is my exact reason I don't bother with mindless zombies you have nothing to retort but strawman arguments.

[Betelgeuzah]

This doesn't alarm you make you concerned at all???

Only if you lack the basic understanding of game development.

*** magnets, how do they work???

[Mack]

I have like 9 post on this forum in what about 9 months this game has been out ? ...Good argument you have there hahah.
Patient ????? It's been 9 freaking months that's not being patient that's being mind controlled to have that much patience when you see low budget garbage mmo companies turning out more content than a huge , giant company like SE.

That's all the devs got were constructive feedback hell even in freaking alpha they got feedback they chose to ignore or give us vague answers like " we will look into it". That's suppose to be acceptable for a supposed Huuuge company and name brand like the Final Fantasy series who is in dire , desperate, alarming need to fix a broken game is 9 months of nothing but minor additions? This doesn't alarm you make you concerned at all???

I won't even mention how long the game was under development and it still lacks all the basics from an old ps2 MMO they made in the past.

That is my exact reason I don't bother with mindless zombies you have nothing to retort but strawman arguments.

LOL I remember when Tanaka got pissed off at the people who were speculating what the fatigue system was and he tweeted about how its not what people think and that it was something else and blah blah. At the time he was thinking that people wont enjoy the game or even buy it if they have a false perception of it, what came next must have hit him hard.

Only if you lack the basic understanding of game development.

Fucking magnets, how do they work???

But he makes a point, SE should have a lot more resources on hand to give this game a boost but they're just greedy bastards. I know that eventually production rate reaches an asymptote but I doubt SE is anywhere near that with FFXIV.

[Rinsui]

Only if you lack the basic understanding of game development.

Harrharrharr... enlighten us, mister developer-in-chief! My knowledge may be less theoretical, but my empirical observation tells me: The whole world, including small-scale indie studios have

- better communication with their customers
- shorter development times for more features
- less stalwart braindead fanboys ('cept for Start Trek online, perhaps)

than SE,

or

already have died off.

Have fun defending your holy grail, Beetle. It's just a rusty can.

[Ashal]

Have fun defending your holy grail, Beetle. It's just a rusty can.

Nice line. Made me chuckle a bit.

[Betelgeuzah]

Harrharrharr... enlighten us, mister developer-in-chief! My knowledge may be less theoretical, but my empirical observation tells me: The whole world, including small-scale indie studios have

- better communication with their customers
- shorter development times for more features.

I do hope you are not a part of any scientific research. What a waste of funding.

The last few sentences were quite enlightening as well. But how can I blame you, ignorance is a bliss.