Updates: FFXI and FFXIV, a comparison

[Rinsui]

And in this industry, if your feature is different from the one you showed us during the conceptual stage, you are a liar. On top of the earlier information being pretty much useless in the current state of things.

Ah. Like when they announced player-run companies. Or group-crafting (wedding cakes, rocket launchers). Or when they showed a riding chocobo in the first trailer (EA 2009).

Clearly they should not have shown chocobos.
Everybody knows they take 4+ years to implement.

I'm beginning to get your point.
Go on.

[Firon]

Ah. Like when they announced player-run companies. Or group-crafting (wedding cakes, rocket launchers). Or when they showed a riding chocobo in the first trailer (EA 2009).

Clearly they should not have shown chocobos.
Everybody knows they take 4+ years to implement.

I'm beginning to get your point.
Go on.

Um... actually they never gave any game play videos of anything you said....

[Betelgeuzah]

Ah. Like when they announced player-run companies. Or group-crafting (wedding cakes, rocket launchers). Or when they showed a riding chocobo in the first trailer (EA 2009).

Clearly they should not have shown chocobos.
Everybody knows they take 4+ years to implement.

I'm beginning to get your point.
Go on.

Announcing a feature =/= showing us concepts of said feature. They did announce their current plans back in the first producer's letter in January. They didn't speak of the concepts for obvious reasons, just like they didn't speak of the concepts for companies or wedding cakes.

If you want an example of them showing a concept which ended up not working in practice, you only need to look at the early pics released in famitsu and the official site. Direction and position affecting combat? Different attacks influencing combat? Several arrow types for Archer?

I'm sure all these features looked good on paper, yet none of it works like it should in-game. Their vision and the actual implementation is like night and day.

You can announce that you are working on these features- but if you also announce how you intend these features to work in practice, more often than not it'll come back to bite you in the ass.

Developers usually do not announce new games during the conseptual stage, and if they do, they only give details and footage on concrete content. There's a reason for this. SE went back to the drawing board, because the current game just outright does not work, and now they are getting to the stage when something concrete can be shown.

[Rinsui]

Beetle, I correct you. ^.^

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5th picture from the top.
The interesting stuff begins around 6:40.

http://kuumapipo.blog122.fc2.com/blog-category-8.html

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The irony is that the wedding cake actually has a chocobo topping.
So much for shattered dreams.

Btw, at 8:40 they also announce new hairstyles.
And a lot of other stuff that never saw the light of day.

Btw, just for fun: I found another live-action commercial the west most likely is not aware of ^^;

(Last trailer on the page, immediately before the job descriptions)

http://macoooooo.blog16.fc2.com/category10-1.html

[viion]

Still searching, but in the meantime I found another trailer the west most likely is not aware of ^^;

We are all aware of this, it was the prelive show, was shown prior to launch. Search Eorzea Prelive

Also not to mention the Hairstyles existed in our files on launch, and worked fine, but were removed Around the new year. So plans changed!

[Betelgeuzah]

We still know nothing of said features. It's like the stuff in the first letter of the producer, except with vague pics.

[kukurumei]

Apologist can run the eternal excuse game, but in the end it's the results that matter.

They can be good they can be bad...sadly, majority is still bad. People still leave, game still blows, and time still ticks tocks.

Reality is a frightening thing, that's that.

[Prevbean]

The funniest part about all this is it's the year 2011 and we have seen more done to a game in 2002 that had way less competition to worry about and wayyy more examples to from other games to replicate even their own game.

[Corrderio]

And the sad thing is people still don't realize that XIV is getting a revamp on damn near everything compared to XI.

[kukurumei]

And the sad thing is people still don't realize that XIV is getting a revamp on damn near everything compared to XI.

Correction:

And the sad thing is people do realize that XIV will get a revamp on damn near everything compared to XI.

They're slow, and there's a lot of work.

Again it's results that matter, not the excuses. Until results come, it will be the same.