Updates: FFXI and FFXIV, a comparison

[Betelgeuzah]

the players base their progess on the content implemented in live servers ,because is where we play?

if they have internal version and all of them are busy playing in the new dungeons and having fun , i could care less....

So in your small mind, no feature exists or is in development before it is implemented to the live servers? It just pops out of nowhere.

With this in mind, every feature has similar development time and can be implemented to the game anytime. It's just a matter of swinging that magic stick!

Lastly, testing, preparing and implementing every new feature separately (that affects other features) does not slow them down at all, as well as making much sense when the feature in question has no relation to the current game but the game the dev team is working on.

[Wolfie]

And based on their responses to questions about other content. How convenient of you to ignore half my post, Admiral Fanboy.

Let me ask you this: if they have content that they're working on, with any actual progress, why would they not release it or give more info about it?

Hint, they don't. There have been a total of like 335 MB of updates since January. That's pathetic in every sense of the word.

[viion]

It doesnt matter what they doing behind the scenes because we're not behind the scenes! We only care about progression of content/updates to US so yes basing it off live servers is fine because thats what we're playing.

The reason for delaying info is most likely for 2 reasons: 1 so it makes us think they're working hard and we can say "they spent x amount of time on that" when they havent. and 2 because they probably keep changing stuff or broke and have to keep fixing stuff.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

It doesnt matter what they doing behind the scenes because we're not behind the scenes! We only care about progression of content/updates to US so yes basing it off live servers is fine because thats what we're playing.

The reason for delaying info is most likely for 2 reasons: 1 so it makes us think they're working hard and we can say "they spent x amount of time on that" when they havent. and 2 because they probably keep changing stuff or broke and have to keep fixing stuff.

"But to the person it does not matter so much, this thread is talking mainly about the development side of things. "
Didn't you just say this to me a few minutes ago?

[Warlyx]

if there is content behind scenes ,and its being tested.....
why dont post about it? screenshots? info? or its everything being changed everyday .....that SE cant post any news because isnt "final"...........

yeah that makes sense......

[viion]

"But to the person it does not matter so much, this thread is talking mainly about the development side of things. "
Didn't you just say this to me a few minutes ago?

The development to US what we get you're trying to twist what I mean.

They make stuff but it is not coming to us, and we've had nothing else. The development to our view is minimal, that is why I said if you dat mine or fileswap you will see theres been only 1 new mob. There might be loads behind the scenes but we dont know it so right now as far as facts concern what our gamefiles hold, the development team have made 1 mob.

Thats 1 single petty hardly used mob, on the entire live/public server that the development team have concentrated on regarding mobs. The rest pre-existing before Alpha. It can also be said the same for the quest system, its an identical ripoff to the already existing quest system classes had, so imo the development for "Implementation of Quest System" does not exist.

[Wolfie]

if there is content behind scenes ,and its being tested.....
why dont post about it? screenshots? info? or its everything being changed everyday .....that SE cant post any news because isnt "final"...........

yeah that makes sense......

Because there isn't any. That's why all their answers are "We'll look into it" or "We're planning this for the future".

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

The development to US what we get you're trying to twist what I mean.

They make stuff but it is not coming to us, and we've had nothing else. The development to our view is minimal, that is why I said if you dat mine or fileswap you will see theres been only 1 new mob. There might be loads behind the scenes but we dont know it so right now as far as facts concern what our gamefiles hold, the development team have made 1 mob.

Thats 1 single petty hardly used mob, on the entire live/public server that the development team have concentrated on regarding mobs. The rest pre-existing before Alpha. It can also be said the same for the quest system, its an identical ripoff to the already existing quest system classes had, so imo the development for "Implementation of Quest System" does not exist.

Ok, I just wanted you to admit that there could be more they're working on behind the scenes. But haven't you thought the reason why we haven't seen anything new in dats is because they know people are going to hack them? Also why put all this information on people hard drives when you're going to release it a year from now? Release it when you're going to implement it.

[Betelgeuzah]

Let me ask you this: if they have content that they're working on, with any actual progress, why would they not release it or give more info about it?

"We have changed the way VIT works in accordance to our new battle system which is still being worked on."
"We have changed the effects of all enmity spells to prepare for our new enmity calculations still being worked on. We know that these changes make no sense with the way current enmity calculations work and essentially make the spells useless, but we ask that you bear with us little longer."
"Additionally, we have released the job specific armor for Paladin. The quest related to obtaining this item has been implemented as well, but only in Japanese due to the unfinished translation that will still be worked on. We also regret to inform that you can not equip said armor because the Paladin job has not yet been finished. You also can not defeat the quest NM with the current damage calculations, sorry for that."

"The claiming system has been changed, but the algorithms for receiving SP have not. You will not be able to receive any SP for fighting monsters, and we are sorry for the inconvenience this may cause."
"Auto-Attack and the necessary algorithms have been implemented. The server adjustments related to the change are still on the works, however, so the damage you inflict on enemies will not register on the server. We ask you to bear with us on this matter."
"Materia system has finally been implemented! You can not, however, equip any items with materia until we change the item icons and status details."
"Due to the additional work preparing and implementing all the aforementioned features to the live servers has caused us, we regret to inform you that the development of the Auction House has been delayed indefinitely."

"While working on the Auto-Attack feature we have found out an issue that needs to be resolved. Due to this, our current adjustments to the VIT stat need to be changed as well. Since said feature has already been implemented, and it will take us even longer to prepare and implement a fix, chocobos have been delayed until 2012."

"Jobs work like this:"

"We previously said that the jobs work like this, but during the development of the rehaul of battle system we found out an issue, and to solve that we also have to change how jobs work for them to work together."

[viion]

Ok, I just wanted you to admit that there could be more they're working on behind the scenes. But haven't you thought the reason why we haven't seen anything new in dats is because they know people are going to hack them?

While true, why not post screenshots? they've posted 1 and it was ages ago. And even put up post of 1 dungeon in the Lodestone which has crappy images (to match the theme).

Goblin was never put in our files until day of release, but there are other mobs existing now in the files, couple even fully complete but they are not being used anywhere in the game, so its confusing.

Still as Warlyx and Wolfie are talking about, being this quiet, returning near nothing in information, the last post on lodestone is the last patch, makes game look very dead and like the dev team are not concerned. It doesnt seem like they're doing much behind the scenes.

Knowing my luck though I always state this then a fking news letter comes out after weekend. I know we wont get anything until Monday onwards because no one works during weekends in SE. Also with e3 I think things will be quiet.