WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Vahlnir]

Personally, I'm keeping a bit of an open mind. Not defending SE right now as far as housing goes (I'm sure they've got an angry mob on their hands in some respect and it's well deserved), but there are some typos along with some very questionable math in the 2.1 notes. This may very well be a mix up in their rush, and pressure, to get the patch notes out. If that isn't the case, well...rage on, and again it's well deserved. I'm sincerely hoping that IS the case.

[Fenwick]

It's funny, though, that there are a million good changes in those patch notes and the one thing most people are going to focus on is the cost of FC housing. I agree that it's ridiculous (obviously), just find it pretty silly that people are coming out of the woodwork "OMG CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SE HAS DONE IT AGAIN UNSUBBED SELLING ALL MY FINAL FANTASY DISKS ON EBAY AAAAAAAAAAA"

I'd agree with you if this was a thread about the patch as a whole, but it isn't. It'd be a bit off topic to randomly praise things that aren't included in the subject. >.>

[Raagnar]

I just made a character on balmung, one of the most expensive servers (legacy). Vanya hat for 2M on market board? LOL. I see you have next to 0 understanding of economics.

so you pick the most expensive item listed and think it reflects the actual market flow? you obviously didn't look at the sale history or take into consideration making a hq vanya hat requires a certain amount of effort itself. Just because you have spent the last 3 months lvling crafts doesn't mean everyone else did.


"LOL. I see you have next to 0 understanding of economics."

[BHolland]

I love reading people whine. You need that house immediately when the patch hits don't ya?

[Aenarion]

I think you are not looking at this right. Market board might be dead on your server because people just make money shouting offers. You can't just say economy is shit just because official documents say you only sell 2 hq items per day. It can very much be alive still. I mean.. I have a full time job + overtime hours, I sign on to do a few things a day now. And I still have enough to finance my own house, down to some decorations. I just play the game, but still have 8 figure gil. I really can't imagine how inflated servers are..

In any case if they are wrong, they will change it. SE is not that stupid.

There is no realistic reason why all of a sudden the market board, which have always been the primary hub of economic activity, would suddenly go dead in favor of shouts. Which, FYI, have also pretty much disappeared entirely these days. You're looking at the issue from a micro (ie, personal) point of view, what I'm talking about are on the macro level (server-wide). The current inevitable decline is something that was painfully obvious from day 1 to anyone who understood how the system works.

In short, there are very little in this game that drives demand for anything outside of leveling crafting, which is inherently a finite number. As more and more of the population finished their crafting, the customer base becomes smaller and smaller, while the number of suppliers continue to increase. And this doesn't even include people who weren't into the crafting side of the game, I know more than a few people who have been playing since the start of 1.0, but have less than a mil to their name still.

[axemtitanium]

FC house pricing is appropriate for the size of the FC. Large houses are for FCs with 100+ members. Small houses are for FCs with <20 members. If you run the numbers, each member's contribution doesn't get much higher than 1 million gil each which is actually about the same as leveling 1-50 three or four times (I made 300k from my 1-50 ACN), regardless of house size. If you're a tiny FC with 10 members, 625 million is an outrageous amount of money but that's because those huge houses are NOT DESIGNED FOR A COMPANY OF THAT SIZE.

[charlemagne]

I was uninterested in housing before the announcement anyway.

[Taaz]

FC house pricing is appropriate for the size of the FC. Large houses are for FCs with 100+ members. Small houses are for FCs with <20 members. If you run the numbers, each member's contribution doesn't get much higher than 1 million gil each which is actually about the same as leveling 1-50 three or four times (I made 300k from my 1-50 ACN), regardless of house size. If you're a tiny FC with 10 members, 625 million is an outrageous amount of money but that's because those huge houses are NOT DESIGNED FOR A COMPANY OF THAT SIZE.

We have about 30 active members in our guild. we've raised 8 million. the cheapest most run down house is 8 mil on our server. You want me to put 30 members of my guild in a house the size of an inn room.

Tell me more, please.

[Asdamine]

You need to get your FC rank to 6 anyway before you can buy a land. That has got to be at least 6 hours. It should save you 14% of the cost lol, though I don't feel there is a difference.

Well well, at least we not know what our individual player housing would be like in 2.2. Time to farm some, lol.

[LiadansWhisper]

I love reading people whine. You need that house immediately when the patch hits don't ya?

No. But my FC would really like one within the first year. :-\