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  1. #231
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    Nero's Avatar
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by senjyo View Post
    Nobody has ever said every FC could afford a house
    Yes, Yoshi did. It has been stated by Yoshi that a medium house will cost the same amount of money you earn from leveling to 50 three times.

    How is that 75 Mil exactly?
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  2. #232
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    Aenarion's Avatar
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    Aenarion Estelvir
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    Of course it's a penta hat. Do you want to know what it costs on lamia? lol. I have been an active trader on ilv70 hq items. If you want to talk about no materia, I have seen 5 digit hq pieces sell in desperation because 100+K is "too expensive". But market board is whatever. In my server, people in MD are crafting ilv70 hq just for tips. That is where our server is at. That is why we pay only 4M gil. Even the endgame products come by as FREE.

    edit: also I would be damned if I say a hq piece sell within 4 days on lamia. You are complaining about 2 per day? lol
    I'm not sure if you really understand what you just wrote, which frankly just supports my point.

    The level of economic activity in this game is shit, it's terrible, because the fundamental resource/game mechanic/balance system behind it is utter crap. This limits the earning potential of the player population, remember, those two pieces of vanya would net their seller less than 50k in actual profit.

    When you add in a pure money sink the size of that SE is doing, it will also heavily skew the supply/demand across the entire market. Coming from 7+ years of Eve, the level of sheer incompetence in understanding game economy displayed by SE is shocking.
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  3. #233
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    Hanekawa Tsubasa
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Are you confusing between player housing and FC housing? I remember yoshi had mention multiple times during Q&A regarding FC housing will be a luxury item for big FC at the start.
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  4. #234
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    Nymeria Rhoyne
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    The only way some of these prices make any sense at all is one or more of the following:

    A. They wanted to artificially control the initial stress on housing instances
    B. They wanted a better way to confiscate gil from RMT, since they will be some of the only ones who can afford housing. They said they will take the house, thus removing gil from the game without it spreading through economy.
    C. They really are that @$$ backwards and decided to just go casual on relics, NM's, end game raiding and go hardcore on housing...which...I mean...it hurts...my brain
    D. There were typo's in some of their calculations on some servers which multiplied some value out exponentially, and we will find the pricing on legacy servers to be much closer to so some the other lower ones shown.

    I mean what is SE considering a small guild? Does a small house hold that many players? Are there really that many guilds out there that consider themselves small guilds with 25-50 active members?
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  5. #235
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    Ferr's Avatar
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    Ferria Svensa
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Second, 625m is for the most populated legacy world only.
    so fuck them?

    I repeat, 20M for a small house is insane. Those houses are for 6-8 person. A FC that small cant afford that much money, especially if they're not legacy players (not everyone in a Legacy server is a legacy player).

    Nobody has ever said every FC could afford a house, in fact they clearly stated that it will be something a big FC could afford on day 1
    They said the price of a FC house would be the sum of the money adquired from 1 to 5 for a couple of players. Thats not true , atleast on legacy servers.
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  6. #236
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    Teao Animar
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by am0n View Post
    SE can't do math.



    I'm sorry, but 14% reduction every 6 hours is NOT half value after 90 days. It's half value after like 1 day.
    Based on the data shown
    it is .14% of the original price not 14%. And the 90 day example should say 3,968,000
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  7. #237
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    Ifervan's Avatar
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    Ifervan Empyrean
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    Gilgamesh
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    No house for us! Elitism is alive in 14!
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  8. #238
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    Dirosei's Avatar
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    Arukai Kha
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by senjyo View Post
    Stop complaining. First of all, it is a FC house, and it suppose to be something valuable.

    Second, 625m is for the most populated legacy world only. The non-legacy world highest is only 125M which is very reasonable.

    Please don't complain just because you see everyone else is complaining and you never smart enough to inform yourself first.


    That's pretty unfair. When it was first declared, yes it was stated that it would be expensive, but the roundabout price they threw out was roughly about 4-5 million. 625 just because of server population is a little far from: "It will cost as much as leveling a character to 50 3-4 times." I don't know about you, but not everyone, even in large FC's have 162 members with a million gil each. So to say that people didn't inform themselves is just as uninformed as you claim they are to be.
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  9. #239
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    Arukai Kha
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 58
    CONT'D

    Not everyone has the ability to make a storm of gil. Some have no idea how to go about it, and some know how to play the markets like a fiddle.
    But overall, the pricing needs to change. My FC isn't massive, but we've been working our asses off and amassed about 10million between an active 20 people or so. And thats not even enough to bother with, because we just so happen to be on Balmung.
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  10. #240
    Player yamface's Avatar
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    Yam Face
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    Lamia
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
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    I think you are not looking at this right. Market board might be dead on your server because people just make money shouting offers. You can't just say economy is shit just because official documents say you only sell 2 hq items per day. It can very much be alive still. I mean.. I have a full time job + overtime hours, I sign on to do a few things a day now. And I still have enough to finance my own house, down to some decorations. I just play the game, but still have 8 figure gil. I really can't imagine how inflated servers are..

    In any case if they are wrong, they will change it. SE is not that stupid.
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