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    There are new outlets for making gil after this patch esp crafting items for houses. I don't think it is a problem that it can take time to acquire a house, especially with everyone crying about being bored. Really there is no reason to panic.

    Also if you consider that housing is a FC rank accessed, group activity.. the gil collection for a house plot should also be considered a group activity, not a single player venture requiring only one player's bank.

    And finally,
    The Devaluation Timer

    The price of a plot of land is set to be reduced 14% every six hours.
    Example:
    Small
    - Starting Price: 8,000,000 gil
    - 10 Days Later: 7,552,000 gil
    - 15 Days Later: 7,328,000 gil
    - 30 Days Later: 6,656,000 gil
    - 90 Days Later: 3,698,000 gil
    * The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh View Post
    And finally,
    The Devaluation Timer

    The price of a plot of land is set to be reduced 14% every six hours.
    Example:
    Small
    - Starting Price: 8,000,000 gil
    - 10 Days Later: 7,552,000 gil
    - 15 Days Later: 7,328,000 gil
    - 30 Days Later: 6,656,000 gil
    - 90 Days Later: 3,698,000 gil
    * The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.
    Might want to stop perpetuating SE's terrible typos.

    If you actually checked the math out, it's 0.14%, as in ZERO POINT ONE FOUR PERCENT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh View Post
    There are new outlets for making gil after this patch esp crafting items for houses. I don't think it is a problem that it can take time to acquire a house, especially with everyone crying about being bored. Really there is no reason to panic.
    The problem is that the people that can afford the houses are likely able to just gather and make the furnishings themselves as these high tier houses require money from huge amounts of people. Also it is tons and tons of money just being drained out of the economy and then the rest of the populace is stuck being unable to get the money they need as the players that would be the ones buying expensive items have been cleaned out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    The problem is that the people that can afford the houses are likely able to just gather and make the furnishings themselves as these high tier houses require money from huge amounts of people. Also it is tons and tons of money just being drained out of the economy and then the rest of the populace is stuck being unable to get the money they need as the players that would be the ones buying expensive items have been cleaned out.
    It won't work like that. Having gil sinks do not inhibit gil production. In fact, it should be an incentive for more people to produce gil. It honestly should have very little impact on market prices or difficulty in obtaining gil. It might lower liquidity, depending on exactly how many people want to buy houses, which actually reduces the gil sink provided by market tax. Housing prices is actually not really a big deal. The market tax is, and will always be, the be-all end-all for inflation control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shikarin View Post
    It won't work like that. Having gil sinks do not inhibit gil production. In fact, it should be an incentive for more people to produce gil. It honestly should have very little impact on market prices or difficulty in obtaining gil. It might lower liquidity, depending on exactly how many people want to buy houses, which actually reduces the gil sink provided by market tax. Housing prices is actually not really a big deal. The market tax is, and will always be, the be-all end-all for inflation control.
    You know how it'll work?! Are you a psychic?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airinya View Post
    You know how it'll work?! Are you a psychic?!
    You could call it playing MMOs for 14 years and having an finance background. Or you could just call it common sense. Depends on your perspective.
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    Egwene Al'vere
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    A lot of people don't seem to realize that this current housing is meant for Free Companies, not individual player housing. On my server the cheapest house is 8m, which is totally doable by one player if they save up for a few weeks, and even more so by a small FC of even 5-10 players. I've never really tried to make money but I'm always around 800k, fluctuating down to 0-100k at times but I always bounce back up to at least 500k or so. If I really worked at it I'm sure I could save up around 1.5m in short order.

    I'd go so far as to say that even the best medium plot size house is doable at 37.5m for most FC's of 20-50 players. The largest houses aren't going to be available to anyone except possibly a FC full of people who had all 50 crafts at the start of the game and are loaded, but in time they will drop to manageable prices - for me it's 125m, and at half price of around 60m that is easily doable by the larger FCs. For all the small 5-10 man FCs I think they're stuck buying a small house, but it should be easily affordable if you've saved up any kind of cash at all.
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    I get creating content in the game that is hardcore Coil is may not be the hardest content but it is locked so if 8 of my FC run to turn 4 and our 9th member wants help well too bad dude. We all pay a monthly fee to enjoy the content of this game. Housing has been something promise by SE for a long time now they introduce it and low and behold as with pretty much everything they do it is a complete let down. Yes housing should be available to all Free Companies no matter what their size. If a small FC of say 10-20 players wants to have a small house to call their base who is SE to say F you go join a bigger group. I do not believe that every single FC should have an estate.
    Last I checked Yoshida labeled this game as something you can play as a casual how can they justify this being ok? Anyway just adding to the list of disappointed people. Great Job SE just keep watching those subs dwindle just waiting for those 1.0 days of a whopping 25 people online at any given time .
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    This makes me sad.
    My FC is full of wonderful people, the vast majority of whom are new to mmos and casual players. I have received donations as little as 1k gil from new players and I appreciate their generosity. We have been looking forward to FC housing as something different to play with in this game. In the end, we've been shut out.

    I really wish more than ever that personal housing had come first and then we could work up to buying a clubhouse afterwards. But now we have nothing but more dungeons to look forward to. :-/ I hated being the bearer of bad news.
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    Like the guy with the crazy beard told us, the rent is too damn high.
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