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  1. #301
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    Masimo's Avatar
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    Alexa Ravenhawke
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Yes much like bard in FFXI would be great, where you can play multiple songs to benefit the different jobs in the party.
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  2. #302
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    NyssaElf's Avatar
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    Saryn Aide
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Bard won't lose one of its abilities but I bet it loses blood for blood.
    More sad about losing invigorate, but melee is getting a 10% buff and mages already hit like a truck. So that is a damage nerf to bards
    Which I probably be more ok with. If the removed the CD on blunt arrow and the damage nerf from songs.
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    Last edited by NyssaElf; 12-14-2013 at 06:22 AM.

  3. #303
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Change is one thing but we do need support jobs like it or not and brd is a support job like it or not. Why do you think you have songs to cast? Why is the community wants everything to be dps?
    That's horrible logic, you know? By this logic, WHM and SCH are actually DPS classes. We have 4 songs that we can choose from; WHM has 6 DPS spells; and SCH has 8 DPS spells. Doesn't change the fact that the game queues them as heals and us as dps.
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  4. #304
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    Azalea Cindersong
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    Gilgamesh
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Why not try a real dps job that isnt as easy you will have a lot more fun than just running around with your head cut off pressing buttons?
    Like a black mage, you mean?

    Sleep, Apocastasis, Lethargy, Virus, Eye for an Eye, Physick... oh my god, black mage is a support class, too?
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  5. #305
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    Kaliga Moonshade
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Masimo View Post
    Yes much like bard in FFXI would be great, where you can play multiple songs to benefit the different jobs in the party.
    In 1.0 Brd used to be like this, where you dropped songs on the specific party members that needed it. However, back then we didn't start off with TP, didn't regen tp/mp in battle, and also had higher cap on TP cause actions cost more to use if not in a combo (combo actions used to cost no tp so long as they were used in appropriate chain). Arguably, there were a good deal of things that Devs changed from 1.0-1.20 that they should have kept when rebuilding the game, and other than having access to cnj cross class abilities we still retain access to most everything we had before.
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  6. #306
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    Razzelmire's Avatar
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    Barachiel Shina
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    I don't understand why every time they have chosen to say something about Bard, it's leaving us with just as much vague information as the last time they said something about Bard changes. Why the secrecy? I don't understand it. They were quick to spill ALL the info on Warrior, but almost zero on Bard. I think they're really considering how much this change may or may not piss off the Bard fanbase. I am ok with DPS lowering...whatever. Just increase my support abilities at least so that people still want Bards in the party.
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  7. #307
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    Rasix Tinypants
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 64
    From the patch notes, it looks like the only change that will affect our dps is the reduction of Internal Release to 10% from 20%.
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  8. #308
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasix View Post
    From the patch notes, it looks like the only change that will affect our dps is the reduction of Internal Release to 10% from 20%.
    BfB has been reduced to 10% too.
    That seems like it.
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  9. #309
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Bard wasn't nerfed much at all. Summoner got made worthless
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  10. #310
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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    BfB has been reduced to 10% too.
    That seems like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Bard wasn't nerfed much at all. Summoner got made worthless
    There is actually a pretty MAJOR nerf is coming in the change to Rain of Death's effect.
    Reduces enemy evasion instead of enemy damage = practically worthless now.
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