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  1. #311
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    There is actually a pretty MAJOR nerf is coming in the change to Rain of Death's effect.
    Reduces enemy evasion instead of enemy damage = practically worthless now.
    Yea, that is pretty sad and I believe they're moving that to a more pvp related ability.
    It's a slight support nerf. Most of the fear was about a major damage nerf or moving around the cross class though.
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  2. #312
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    Emblemelite's Avatar
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    Campbell Soup
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 50
    I love how you can just tell who in here is and isnt clearing Turn 5 on a a weekly basis. I bet 90% of the people saying RoD nerf isnt a big deal have never lived through a gigaflare on Twintania.
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  3. #313
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    Sephir's Avatar
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    Sephir Elessendyl
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I'm freaking mad about this nerf. I don't mind the changes of BFB or Internal Release but it's really stupid to change RoD!!! Why do you want to make bards less useful? we will do less dmg of all dps and the only thing that we can do to help party is to play some songs and nerf our dmg again.
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  4. #314
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Emblemelite View Post
    I love how you can just tell who in here is and isnt clearing Turn 5 on a a weekly basis. I bet 90% of the people saying RoD nerf isnt a big deal have never lived through a gigaflare on Twintania.
    You're right, but it's still a much different type of nerf than anyone expected.
    Talking about nerfs before were specifically about damage nerfs because that's what this whole thread was crying about.

    First step is acknowledging that damage wasn't hit that hard. Then you can talk about the support of RoD.
    Whole different topic.
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  5. #315
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Bards did not receive any direct nerfs to their damage but they did receive an indirect nerf in the form of melee buffs, but this affects ALL range DPS, not just bards. The only direct bard nerf is to their utility, as Rain of Death is pretty much useless now unless they release new contents that would require its use. Honestly though, there are so many bards who don't even use Rain of Death because it would hinder their own personal DPS, kinda like those who don't use Ballad til the party yells in their faces.
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  6. #316
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    Hotsauce's Avatar
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    Cat Woman
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 50
    RiP BRD. In comparison with other classes past 70 ilvl we are at the bottom rung of the totem pole. These changes exacerbated that. Here is to hoping they fix bows wep dmg.
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  7. #317
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    Bards did not receive any direct nerfs to their damage but they did receive an indirect nerf in the form of melee buffs, but this affects ALL range DPS, not just bards. The only direct bard nerf is to their utility, as Rain of Death is pretty much useless now unless they release new contents that would require its use. Honestly though, there are so many bards who don't even use Rain of Death because it would hinder their own personal DPS, kinda like those who don't use Ballad til the party yells in their faces.
    Wouldn't the evasion down effect from the new RoD lessen the accuracy requirements for hitting the mob?
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  8. #318
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    PretzelBear's Avatar
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    Peachy Bear
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 90
    When I heard the bard was getting damage nerf I thought it made sense because SE was going to give them more of a support role by maybe adding something useful party wise, the Rain of Death nerf is the exact opposite. Instead of propare balancing all Bards got is the future of a half-baked support and half-baked DPS. Only usefulness now is the Mage's Ballad one trick ponies yay! Oh and they still have Blunt Arrow at least they didn't take the silence away.
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  9. #319
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    Sylari's Avatar
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    Asriel Blackthorne
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Would it be feasible to actually dump some level of accuracy itemization in favor of relying on RoD being up for most of the fight?
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    Bards did not receive any direct nerfs to their damage.
    Well, they did, albeit fairly minor ones. Untraited B4B and IR both got their effectiveness cut in half.
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  10. #320
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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylari View Post
    Would it be feasible to actually dump some level of accuracy itemization in favor of relying on RoD being up for most of the fight?
    Since it costs 200 TP, does like, 100 potency damage, i'm going to go with "hell no".
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