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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Run_n_shoot is already a great advantage, so nice, if this advantage will be balanced
    This game doesn't resolve around hard mode Titan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Run_n_shoot is already a great advantage, so nice, if this advantage will be balanced
    SE balanced it out at launch regarding Weapons between our Utility and Increased Action Dmg Trait. Bard's have the lowest base damage of all jobs in the Main Weapon slot to their equivalent counterparts.

    Which is why I am not worried in regards to Yoshi's comment of: "BRDs will get a very minor change" in the Live Letter. Unhappy players will always exaggerate numbers and/or leave out the details that matter. In the end, Brds will always be needed regardless in certain situations, like any role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meJojo View Post
    Bard DPS is already on par with Monks and Dragoons on single target, with their 10% damage buff the only DPS class that will be behind Bard is the Summoner, and that's not even taking their pet DPS into account.

    There shouldn't be a nerf to Bard damage at all. They need to make stuns and silences on the melee classes more reliable, maybe give Black Mage a silence. But don't touch the damn Bard.
    Yes there should be a nerf brd is suppose to be a support job not a dps job. Im sorry you brd's are losing the flavor of the month but it has to be done like it or no. Might as well deal with it now, let it be the support job it is suppose to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Yes there should be a nerf brd is suppose to be a support job not a dps job. Im sorry you brd's are losing the flavor of the month but it has to be done like it or no. Might as well deal with it now, let it be the support job it is suppose to be.
    No where in any ARR documentation does it state Bard is a support role. All documentation regarding Bard in ARR assigns it as a DPS Role.

    This isn't 1.0 and it is different from other games in the FF series. Until SE announces and changes Bard's Role, it is a DPS Job. The Dev Team refers to it as a DPS Role and have always discussed its Utility and not support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    No where in any ARR documentation does it state Bard is a support role. All documentation regarding Bard in ARR assigns it as a DPS Role.

    This isn't 1.0 and it is different from other games in the FF series. Until SE announces and changes Bard's Role, it is a DPS Job. The Dev Team refers to it as a DPS Role and have always discussed its Utility and not support.
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD. It is not dps it is support like it or not it always has been a support job. You and others dont like that than thats too bad. It is you the players who have turned it into a dps job not SE. If the jopb was not intented as support than your songs would not fit the support role but they do. You chose your job to play you made the wrong choice it seems, if you want dps we have mnk blm and drg, pick your poison but brd isnt in the dps jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD. It is not dps it is support like it or not it always has been a support job. You and others dont like that than thats too bad. It is you the players who have turned it into a dps job not SE. If the jopb was not intented as support than your songs would not fit the support role but they do. You chose your job to play you made the wrong choice it seems, if you want dps we have mnk blm and drg, pick your poison but brd isnt in the dps jobs.
    That's odd. . .I seem to remember getting long DPS queues, and taking a DPS slot. . .

    You're sure I'm not a DPS? The game seems convinced that I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    BOOHOO seriously? BRD is a SUPPORT job PERIOD.
    lmfao. I don't care what you think it should be. I've played the job since its release in 1.2x and played it to how it was designed then tossing cures, stoneskin, raising members in battle, and songs to help my party.

    There are 3 Roles in ARR. DPS, Tank, Healer. Sorry, SE changed ARR to try to appeal to a broader base and BRD was changed also. CNJ Cross-Class is gone. You keep going against the current state of the game saying BRD is support, songs are the priority for the party, but in a fight it takes up very very little of our time. Where damage dealing takes up the large majority.

    You want the 1.23 BRD, refuse to accept the changes made, and on top of it blame the community when the Dev Team redesigned it this way. I've moved on and adapted to change and will if the job is completely overhauled in the future for a different role.
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    Last edited by ReplicaX; 12-13-2013 at 10:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Yes there should be a nerf brd is suppose to be a support job not a dps job. Im sorry you brd's are losing the flavor of the month but it has to be done like it or no. Might as well deal with it now, let it be the support job it is suppose to be.
    Brd is FotM due to casual players that just copy a gimped setup for coil.
    But please explain ur statment, since Yoshi said, and made a game that has no room for support role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phai View Post
    Brd is FotM due to casual players that just copy a gimped setup for coil.
    But please explain ur statment, since Yoshi said, and made a game that has no room for support role.
    I dont need to explain it is Yoshi who needs to explain his position. You dont take a job that is support as in all of the FF series and just throw it into the dps classification. The issue at had is Yoshi is coping other games way to much and not looking at the FF series history as what each job is classified as or dose. Brd is SUPPORT, always has been and always should be. The fact is players want the ranged classes to be dps and nothing else because they dont have to worry about anything other than running around and pressing buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    brd is suppose to be a support job not a dps job
    Yeah no. Until they split up Archer into Bard and Hunter/Ranger Bard should stay in their DPS role.
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