BARD 2.1 change [requesting letter from the producer explanation]

[Curcio]

I'd like to point out to you, Pellegri, that nerfs/buffs in videogames don't solely depend on how loud the community is for or against them.

Technology these days is pretty incredible. They can track their own statistics, parsers, heatmaps, etc. to figure out class balance. I'm not saying the community has no say in it, but you're assumption that the community generally doesn't understand bard isn't true. All the facts that SE has gathered probably point to Bard being a little ahead of the curve.

I see this argument all the time on forums. People assume because others cry "Nerf!" the developers get scared and hit the button. It doesn't quite work that way. There's more going on behind the scenes that you don't see that tells them that a class needs a balance change.

[Pellegri]

I'd like to point out to you, Pellegri, that nerfs/buffs in videogames don't solely depend on how loud the community is for or against them.

Nowhere did I say that's how it was in most games or even mmos, hell I've even played multiple mmos where the community choice ends up being terrible in the end and that's why it was never changed. I've also played mmos where the devs clearly listen to whoever is the loudest when it comes to changes in the game, many changes were originally made going from 1.0 to 2.0 because of community decisions. However when they came to 2.0 those decisions didn't end as you can see over the past few months where many additions were added to 2.1 because of the community and people having a voice.

Do you honestly believe when you look at say the warrior buffs that none of that was because of community outcry? That the devs went from saying early in the games life that warriors were "so strong and people didn't know how to play them correctly" to a complete 180 on the subject a month later when we got a giant list of buffs. Obviously all those changes were made because of dev choices and not because they listened to the community on the subject right?

It's the same thing with bards and melee, melee are getting buffed because the masses can't move out of things fast enough to continue their rotation where they would be higher end damage dealers. Bards are getting some sort of nerf because the masses do not understand how bard works and that because of it's support and movement it is meant to do less damage than everything else(which compared to equally geared/skilled drg/mnk/blm/smn they are lower dps), people don't see that though because they lack the skill many bards have that they are complaining about being so good compared to them.

[Megido]

It's the same thing with melee, melee are getting buffed because the masses can't move out of things fast enough to continue their rotation where they would be higher end damage dealers. Bards are getting nerf because the masses do not understand how bard works and that because of it's support and movement it is meant to do less damage than everything else, people don't see that though because they lack the skill many bards have that they are complaining about being so good compared to them.

Yeah yeah it sucks to get nerfed.

But in 2.2 we will have this post about lets say monks, blaming clueless noob bards for not having a clue and getting them nerfed. Because SE is nice, they are awesome, they would never just tinker with your favorite class! Nope, gotta be those mean skill-less anonymous nobodies that can sway Yoshi's opinions with but a cry! You think you're right but posts like yours are made by everyone blaming everyone at every patch.

[IchirouHayami]

Yeah yeah it sucks to get nerfed.

But in 2.2 we will have this post about lets say monks, blaming clueless noob bards for not having a clue and getting them nerfed. Because SE is nice, they are awesome, they would never just tinker with your favorite class! Nope, gotta be those mean skill-less anonymous nobodies that can sway Yoshi's opinions with but a cry! You think you're right but posts like yours are made by everyone blaming everyone at every patch.

I agree with this the official patch notes are not even out yet and people don't know what they are gunna do to Bard yet everyone is screaming abuse at the developers.
Just wait and see what is going to happen and if it is daft to what they are going to do to Bard complain then... but complaining about something you know nothing about just yet is sad and time consuming nonsense.
I understand that the nerf isn't needed I agree bard need a buff to support skills.