Turn 2 "easy mode", disables every mechanic in the fight

[SulwynCaliope]

You don't need a second tank, there's a single tank method for doing T2

Never heard of it but I'd like to learn about it if you care to share. :3

[Tazo]

Never heard of it but I'd like to learn about it if you care to share. :3

Have WHM and SCH cycle stoneskin and Adloquium on the tank. Done right, the tank wont get any stacks

[Hik0]

lol at all people calling it an exploit while doing SR WP.
Its less an exploit than monster loosing agro when boss room close

also to people saying "one week of practice" while it's true with their playtime, the number of try they did in that one week might be bigger than what casual do in several weeks, and that they not always do with the exact same group

[Tadacho]

What about when your group stacks to just auto-pass Rot without even having to think about it? Is this also considered an exploit just because it's not using the player-created-strategy of pass the rot in a square/w rotation from 1 - 5? Who is to say what strategy SE intended?

It's a legit strategy + seems no different than mindlessly zerging through Garuda, or Titan, or WP SR or AK sac runs. Like all those, this is a strat that can only be adopted if you possess a certain skill and/or gear.

To those that say "you are gimping yourself for future turns," know that in a few months time, we will all - even you - be facerolling Twintania using some as-of-yet undiscovered zerg strat. I also take it the people saying this make sure they kill every mob inside WP and under no circumstances do they even dream of locking mobs out of the boss fights. Right?!

Get off your high horses. Must we create a thread every time a faceroll strat is developed for outdated content?

[AjoraOak]

It's a disgusting strat for an already very easy fight. SE will probably fix it and label it as a fight being done in a manner that was unintended, enjoy it while you can.

Also, when did coil become outdated? lol.

[Battlewrench]

In my opinion its not an exploit and a good strategy. I think SE will end up fixing the rage mode because its not how they want the fight to work but I almost wish they wouldn't because it allows people to bring two melee DPS instead of the one for LB. Finding a PUG coil group as a melee can sometimes suck. If anything though its SE's fault for making an easy rage mode, not anyones for doing the easiest method.

[Tadacho]

It's a disgusting strat for an already very easy fight. SE will probably fix it and label it as a fight being done in a manner that was unintended, enjoy it while you can.

Also, when did coil become outdated? lol.

Well I'm referring to turns 1 and 2 really, seen as how most people here talk about how easy it is and everyone is pretty much working on turns 4 and 5. It isn't outdated persay, but turn 2 has definitely matured, proven in the fact that it can now be facerolled with the appropriate gear.

If it isn't outdated now anyway, it most definitely will be in a month's time and this will be a complete non issue. It is the same story with every other speed run/skip mechanics strat.

inb4 this strat is slower than passing rot -- the point is, it can still only be achieved by groups that are over-geared, seen as it requires high numbers for healing and dps. In this sense it is no different to a speed run, and skipping mobs. Locking mobs out of a boss fight is a bigger exploit than this BY FAR, and yet we ALL do it.

[Tadacho]

Apologies for the double post;

I think SE will end up fixing the rage mode because its not how they want the fight to work

Its enrage ability deals around 2500 damage to me, a BLM, who has 3700 HP. SE is fully aware of 1. the HP of the players and 2. the damage this ability does. Why are people assuming that this ability is supposed to oneshot us all? SE know how to do that. They do it in all the primal fights.

It doesn't oneshot us. It is survivable. Which means we can recover from it and continue fighting and defeat ADS assuming we are geared and skilled enough.

Not all enrages are designed to wipe a party. http://wowpedia.org/Enrage_(mechanic) This could be considered a Hard Frenzy, as opposed to Enrage, which simply applies extra stress to healing in an attempt to end the fight for groups that cannot handle it.

[rocheetbombe]

very much this. If you're SO bad that you can't take it out legit than..I guess have fun? It's an easy fight to start with and this method is longer than the norm.

Your use of the word "legit" made me giggle.

[Gao]

It's not an exploit its a poorly design mechanic... And for those who said they didn't intend on players using that then that's a sad excuse for you to think its a exploits... Hell in one of the letters Yoshida even said something about pld being the preferred tank over war because they didn't "intend" people to find a better way to go around the original design on how players are suppose to fight the bosses... So I guess that makes almost all of us guilty if we didn't use a WAR tank?