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    Maelwys's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    Womble O'flaherty
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    I do not believe that the gryphonskin accessories make up anything close towards a 25% increase towards your overall damage, since it takes quite a bit more than 45 strength for me to see Inner beast hit for 20% more.
    Are you STR or VIT stacked?

    I based the "20-25% increase" figure I tend to throw about on a combination of the extra STR, Crit, Det and SS you gain going from a "BIS VIT/PARRY" build to a "BIS VIT/STR/DEX" build and the effect that has on the DPS output of a PLD that's wielding a Curtana +1.

    The spreadsheet I have to hand on this PC is an older copy and I've since tweaked the builds slightly, but it'll give you a rough idea of the stat changes:

    Det with full Gryphon Gear: 292
    Det with full Hero/Allagan: 230
    Crit with full Gryphon Gear: 368
    Crit with full Hero/Allagan: 352
    SS with full Gryphon Gear: 359 = 2.156s GCD
    SS with full Hero/Allagan: 352 = 2.162s GCD

    Plugging those values into http://valk.dancing-mad.com/calculat...ut-calculator/ (though I notice now when I link this that the calculator page has been altered recently because the old URL I had doesn't work) gave me a rough difference of:

    +18.30% (Crit-Adjusted WS damage)
    +26.83% (Crit Adjusted AA damage)

    Because of the enmity modifiers on PLD WS (RoH combo!), I figure that it's going to be a lot closer to the WS value rather than the AA one.

    [EDIT]Whilst cleaning up my more up-to-date sheet (see below) I've redone this calculation. Moving from a BIS +VIT to a BIS Gryphonskin build appears to grant just over a 14% increase in WS DPS if you try to keep Parry as high as possible with DPS being a secondary concern, and just under a 17% increase if you try to keep DPS as high as possible with Parry being a secondary concern. HP for both these Gryphonskin setups is 6694.50 HP, compared to the +VIT build's 7057 HP, a decrease of 5.14%.[/EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    Can you perhaps link your spreadsheet in your siggy?
    Would be very useful.
    Me? It's more a personal equipment planner for my own PLD than a user-friendly calculator I'm afraid... but I'll see if I can dig out the updated copy tomorrow and export it to Google Docs

    [EDIT] Couldn't convert it to Google Docs, too many formatting differences. Have cleaned it up a little and uploaded it here instead (it's a Standard *.xls file with no macros) - the link should stay valid for ~30 days.[/EDIT]
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    Last edited by Maelwys; 12-05-2013 at 11:29 PM.