Quote Originally Posted by Maelwys View Post
But I'm a PLD with Standard Relic, Full DL accessories (besides the Hero's Ring), and Valor Head and Body. I sit at over 6k HP in a party without food. (Before I had my Valor Head + Body, it was just shy of 5.8k...) Last week I cleared Turn 4 in a PUG, with just NQ Knight's Bread.

Seriously, Turns 1-4 aren't rocket science. They just take a tiny bit of practice and the ability for most of your team to be able to dodge on command.
You Sir must have a hell of a different PLD than anybody else. With the gear you described and the gear I have in comparison, I got 57 more VIT...though I only get to 6360HP(6550ish in PT) out of PT w/o food buff. 57VIT= 855HP. 6550-855= 5.7k IN PT with your gear. Though I agree that's enough for Turn 1-4, it's still nice to have a buffer.

Also I was talking about full itemlvl70...which would substract another 24VIT from the gear you have. Which puts the PLD down to roughly 5.4k in PT(5.2k out of PT so just over 5k...as I said...) and while that still is enough for Turn 1-4 it's not like you won't get low sometimes on a Rotoswipe+AA and maybe hit the ground.

Also...if everybody in the group would have full itemlvl 70...have fun in meeting the DPS requirement for Turn4.