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  1. #51
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    Ericyu's Avatar
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    Ericyu Ill
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    unless you are talking about AF2 armor, then im calling BS on your claim. My dragoon has relic weapon, head and chest AF2, and full DL everything else, and i still dont break 1k even with all buffs on. there is no way you hit 1k with the gear you are saying.
    HT>DiS>BFB>Life Surge = Full Thrust= 1k+ hit
    HT>DiS>BFB>Life Surge=Power Surge= Jump= 1k+ hit
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  2. #52
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    -snip-
    That was my only QQ I had ever had with BRDs. Back before everyones damage evened out, I said they just had too much in their kit (I'm a league player so I look at classes that way). They had utility, they were the top DPS at the time, they were ranged, and they had mobility. In my mind this just screamed OP. So in my rendition of nerfs I believed they should receive, I said they need to put a movement lock on bloodletter. Our BRD in our raid group was not amused with that skill having a movement lock. Either way it would allow for strategic planning of when to use it in heavy aoe fights such as titan. But now as their DMG is tapering off and started to get surpassed, I don't really think a nerf is necessary at all anymore. While I do find that them having so many buffs is ridiculous, their DMG without them is pretty lacking
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  3. #53
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    If the buff to GL duration makes no difference, than nothing has changed. People who say monks are better say so cuz they believe monks have a higher sustained dps (drgs have more burst) so what will change in 2.1? I use jumps almost every time its off cooldown except when I know something dangerous is coming and my monk still beats my drg. We don't know enough about the changes in 2.1 to really say, but if all they changing is GL duration and shorter jump animations, then nothing has changed.

    Also, the increase in GL duration can matter. While possible, it is currently very difficult to keep GL up after a Titan jump, you will often be off by 0.5-1 sec; with this buff, it is now possible everytime. Personally, I'm kinda iffy on this change but what can you do?
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  4. #54
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    Also, the increase in GL duration can matter. While possible, it is currently very difficult to keep GL up after a Titan jump, you will often be off by 0.5-1 sec; with this buff, it is now possible everytime. Personally, I'm kinda iffy on this change but what can you do?
    There was no mention about the buff duration, SE has been pretty accurate with their statements so far and they talked about buffing the "effect" of GL.
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  5. #55
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    NeonC's Avatar
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    Neon Sea
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    That was my only QQ I had ever had with BRDs. Back before everyones damage evened out, I said they just had too much in their kit (I'm a league player so I look at classes that way). They had utility, they were the top DPS at the time, they were ranged, and they had mobility. In my mind this just screamed OP. So in my rendition of nerfs I believed they should receive, I said they need to put a movement lock on bloodletter. Our BRD in our raid group was not amused with that skill having a movement lock. Either way it would allow for strategic planning of when to use it in heavy aoe fights such as titan. But now as their DMG is tapering off and started to get surpassed, I don't really think a nerf is necessary at all anymore. While I do find that them having so many buffs is ridiculous, their DMG without them is pretty lacking
    Little late buddy, jus sayin.
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  6. #56
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    Nuffy Chan
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 50
    If you want more utility and damage, monk.
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  7. #57
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    Phai Mui
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Point.
    Sweet baby Jesus, someone actually did theire homework? Well said
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  8. #58
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Lancer Lv 50
    side note, im not hitting 1k, but im awfully close. im doing ~900. and what could i possibly be doing wrong? -_- its just a matter of landing jump with all buffs. its not rocket science lol
    Balance of CRT versus DTR in your gear.

    Some people may have more stats in SS and CRT, reducing their per-hit maximum damage.

    my dragoon hits around 1300ish
    No, it doesn't.

    There's a fringe possibility you could almost get 1250 with a mega STR potion added to the mix, but I doubt it.
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Thats enough trolling the little guy by now. Lol
    I extended the olive branch earlier and he bit me in the hand. Anyways, I'm pretty much over that guy.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Balance of CRT versus DTR in your gear.

    Some people may have more stats in SS and CRT, reducing their per-hit maximum damage.
    Thank you for the helpful post. I literally haven't been able to log in for almost two weeks to test this out. And I probably won't be able to log in for another few weeks. But, nonetheless, thank you for the helpful comment.

    IF i test this out, and it turns out that I'm not doing 1k, ill have to assume its because i don't have relic+1 plus the stats that you mentioned. If this is the case, I will be very surprised that my relic + AF2 chest + AF2 helm are so much weaker than a relic +1. I can understand that +1 relic is a better choice than AF2 chest and helm, but i underestimated the extend of the gap.

    Even worse is that fact that I know i should probably get relic +1 next, but im probably going to keep getting AF2 just because it looks so awesome.
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