Thread: MNK or DRG post 2.1

Originally Posted by Phai

So the number of buff cd's is the case? Not the dps outcome at the end?
Sorry just have to ask, not trolling.


To OP; Drg and Mnk is both top notch dps classes, find the playstyle u like of those two and make ur choise. Atm mnk is a bit Ahead of drg in pure dps, from what i know. Cant go wrong either way between those two

Of course it has to do with the final DMG output, but there in lies the issue, its pretty much because they have too many ways to buff their dmg. While they are showing to have a quite linear curve now, before when everyone was still AK/Primal weapons and AK/DL/Relic weapons very early into the progression, they could not be touched in damage. Now that everyone is getting i90 gear they are getting crept up on very quickly. This change might be reverted in the future.

Originally Posted by Ephier

Because no other DPS class in the game has 3 DMG boosting OGCDs (Raging Strikes, Blood for blood, and Internal Release) Not only that they have barrage as well, and a OGCD DMG skill that resets. Give DRG and MNK Raging strikes and watch the melee is OP QQ commence.

that is 4 DMG boost for bard. you should include Hawk's eyes it boost 15%DEX , that's a huge dmg boost

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

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That was my only QQ I had ever had with BRDs. Back before everyones damage evened out, I said they just had too much in their kit (I'm a league player so I look at classes that way). They had utility, they were the top DPS at the time, they were ranged, and they had mobility. In my mind this just screamed OP. So in my rendition of nerfs I believed they should receive, I said they need to put a movement lock on bloodletter. Our BRD in our raid group was not amused with that skill having a movement lock. Either way it would allow for strategic planning of when to use it in heavy aoe fights such as titan. But now as their DMG is tapering off and started to get surpassed, I don't really think a nerf is necessary at all anymore. While I do find that them having so many buffs is ridiculous, their DMG without them is pretty lacking

Originally Posted by Ephier

That was my only QQ I had ever had with BRDs. Back before everyones damage evened out, I said they just had too much in their kit (I'm a league player so I look at classes that way). They had utility, they were the top DPS at the time, they were ranged, and they had mobility. In my mind this just screamed OP. So in my rendition of nerfs I believed they should receive, I said they need to put a movement lock on bloodletter. Our BRD in our raid group was not amused with that skill having a movement lock. Either way it would allow for strategic planning of when to use it in heavy aoe fights such as titan. But now as their DMG is tapering off and started to get surpassed, I don't really think a nerf is necessary at all anymore. While I do find that them having so many buffs is ridiculous, their DMG without them is pretty lacking

Little late buddy, jus sayin.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Point.

Sweet baby Jesus, someone actually did theire homework? Well said

Who do I believe... the guy in all i90 saing mid 700s or the guy in lower gear doing 800... hmm

Originally Posted by Mekhana

Monk is slightly better dps single target overall and have some utility.

However DRG will be getting a dps boost soon which should put us on par with MNK along with improved jumps and who knows what else. This added to the fact we have superb AoE, nearly limitless TP and can quickly switch from target to target (effectively losing one of the melee disavantages) we'd be a better class overall, especially in PVP.

DRG won't surpass MNK in single-target DPS. That would be a balance issue simply due to the playstyles of both jobs (risk/reward vs consistent/reliable). Obviously the largest contributor is player skill to any instance of performance, but in terms of DPS ceiling MNK has and should continue to have an edge over DRG. Provided we seem to be getting a buff to the GL effect (either damage or skill speed) I foresee that gap between MNK and DRG being entirely intact.

Also, never bring PvP into the discussion. We know literally nothing about any job's PvP skills, and therefore any comments made about job balance in PvP are asinine.

Originally Posted by Mekhana

Monk is slightly better dps single target overall and have some utility.

However DRG will be getting a dps boost soon which should put us on par with MNK along with improved jumps and who knows what else. This added to the fact we have superb AoE, nearly limitless TP and can quickly switch from target to target (effectively losing one of the melee disavantages) we'd be a better class overall, especially in PVP.

Monks getting buffed too.