Materia System

[Jovy]

The only other thing i can think of is being specific armors and weapons. This way we can still create market growth and not worry about gear destruction. This way they can attach it to thier favorite gear. The materia system is just a temp name and not offiicial.

[Duelle]

And how is appealing to the FFVI fans any different?

It's a feeble attempt to appeal to a demographic that would buy a bag with dog poo inside it if it had FFVII and Cloud's face stapled on it.

However! If this system they're putting into XIV creates nothing more then little slottable stat boosts, then yes, they might as well call it the Magicite system, and in fact it would be more appropriate. Here's hoping, however, that it's not quite as simple as that.

Reading Bay's post, it sounds more like Lineage II's enchant system with a timesink of "attachment points" tossed in. The thing about stacking materia at the very bottom is a very big cause of concern, too.

[Rubicon]

Well as soon as I posted, they clarify. Ok so no FFIX but I can see Materia Weapons or Armor like STR Dagger = STR+1 Materia or HQ STR+2 Materia. Something like that.

[Crevox]

Sounds annoying and unnecessary, I really don't like this. The last part that says "high risk failure" just makes it even worse.

Please don't implement it.

[Malakhim]

It's a feeble attempt to appeal to a demographic that would buy a bag with dog poo inside it if it had FFVI and Kefka's face stapled on it.

See how easy this is? You should quit while you're ahead.

Calling it magicite makes even less sense because the whole "equip and unequip stones to your weapons/armor to increase stats n' stuff" fits more with the materia system, which was "equip and unequip stones to your weapons/armor to increase stats n' stuff". Magicite has much more to do with "magical creatures having their forms and power crystallized into a stone that you equip unto your character". That isn't what they're doing with this system.

Plus, materia rolls off the tongue much easier than magicite.

[ZephyrAM]

Sounds annoying and unnecessary, I really don't like this. The last part that says "high risk failure" just makes it even worse.

Please don't implement it.

From how they state it, the 'high risk failure' part is only for the special double slotting of Materia into equipment, and is likely naturally not something you do all the time, but only try for when you have the best chance possible, and on gear you really want to keep.

Beyond that, the normal, everyday slotting of Materia was stated to have no failure chance whatsoever.

And besides, nothing says that you 'must' spend your days grinding out the creation of Materia. They seem to develop throughout your normal play experiences, and from there it would be no more difficult to get the Materia crafted into an item then it currently is to get an item crafted.

[Amsai]

Its posts like the one Byohne made that make me remember why I love SE. Seriously, this is one of the most awesome things about this game I have heard to date. And hell yes keep the name materia.

[Jovy]

Sounds annoying and unnecessary, I really don't like this. The last part that says "high risk failure" just makes it even worse.

Please don't implement it.

This only refers to attaching more than one materia i believe.

[Duelle]

Sounds annoying and unnecessary, I really don't like this. The last part that says "high risk failure" just makes it even worse.

Please don't implement it.

The only positive here is that it doesn't seem like gear with materia on it is sellable. Otherwise you're going to see stuff like "WTS Iron Longsword +5 (as in, 5 STR materia successfully attached to it), 12 mil" or something like that. Enchants per L2 made pricing very very stupid.

See how easy this is? You should quit while you're ahead.

Right, because SE already made that full length FFVI motion picture, and all those sequels and prequels that conveniently seem to come out the moment SE has an economic flub.

[Peregrine]

Here's a running list of potential problems that would need attention given the info we have. This is made with the idea that the devs want feedback on this system from the players.

1. Matsui's new system focuses on rewarding the effort and innovation of players playing at their best, but this system seems to incentivize equipping low-grade equipment to battle. These focuses seem antagonistic to each other, and a player may be forced to choose between being at their best and getting materia.

2. Jobs that have already hit the level cap sustain massive reductions in the amount of hits they perform on a given weapon or in a given armor set, relegating attachment to gear to a "grinding" activity like levelling or farming, which are either impossible for some or not fun for most.

3. Materia growing appears to be an activity that favors current unaddressed problems in the game: players who farm shards with bots will now have more incentive to continue this activity. Let's not pretend that shard bots don't exist, or allow a system that further rewards that behavior.

4. This system will eventually settle out to what outcome is common and what is rare as a means to distinguish materia on gear. For battlers, that rare event seems to be HQ'ing materia as their mechanism for power. For crafters, it seems to be that rare double materia attach. Where is the power-outcome for gatherers to give them equal weight?

5. The system feels like an archaic MMO farm or grind activity, which this game must avoid if it is to rise above.

6. INVENTORY!