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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Can we please get a ranged limit break?

    Ever have that moment where you go into a dungeon and realise "oh joy 2 archers, now we have to do this without a DD limit break"? I've never been in a situation where the archer having healer limit break has been a life saver. Sure some will argue on HM primals it can but I can't say I've been in a situation where both my healers have been KO'ed and the archer limit break could turn the fight around.

    For a ranged limit break I'd suggest a single target attack weaker than the DD one but stronger than the Mage one with a new additional effect exclusive to the limit break.

    Examples:
    Aerial missile: 1900 potency, single target, additional effect: pin 15s. Character launches a shot into the air large missile comes Down on the target.
    Bombard: 4000 potency, single target, additional effect: pin 20s. Character fires rapidly into the air a hail of shrapnel comes down on the target.
    Radiant storm: 7500 potency, single target, additional effect: pin 30s. Character fires a bolt of lightning into the air, comes down on the target.

    Additional effect: pin is basically silence, pacify and a bind (that won't be broken by attacks) and no mobs have immunity/resistance to it. The mob can still auto attack and it won't stop it using special moves like hellfire, aerial blast or earthen fury. But if they do use a special move the effect will still be active when they finish the move.

    I see this add effect being used as kind of a breather move. So if everyone has taken a lot of damage you can use this limit break to basically halt the mob while your party all get away and recover for a few seconds.

    I just don't think that not having a ranged limit break will work out long term. More ranged classes will eventually be added (musketeer) and they can't all just get healer limit break. It would be better to change it now and give it to archers and have it there for future ranged class releases.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 12-04-2013 at 02:55 AM.

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    Yeah sure, they give you this LB, you're getting nerfed into the ground. Your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    Yeah sure, they give you this LB, you're getting nerfed into the ground. Your choice.
    Hey I'm no archer, just a PLD sick of having 3 healer LB's and 1 tank LB when I use the duty finder.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    As it is right now, giving BRD a damaging LB will just screw melees (and maybe even casters) even more than we are now. Heck, even after the patch giving BRD a damaging LB will just mean more double-stacking BRD, not less like it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    As it is right now, giving BRD a damaging LB will just screw melees (and maybe even casters) even more than we are now. Heck, even after the patch giving BRD a damaging LB will just mean more double-stacking BRD, not less like it should be.
    I can't see this, being a problem, way I see it I looked at it kind of as a mid way point between Mage and DD with its own feature to differentiate it from them. Weaker than DD's (less effective against, say, titan's heart) and single target (useless against things like ifrit's nails) but better than a useless healer limit break on a damage dealer.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 12-04-2013 at 03:07 AM.

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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    I can't see this, being a problem, way I see it I looked at it kind of as a mid way point between Mage and DD with its own feature to differentiate it from them. Weaker than DD's (less effective against, say, titan's heart) and single target (useless against things like ifrit's nails) but better than a useless healer limit break on a damage dealer.
    Why did I expect a Paladin to understand what its like to be left out of everything due to their class of choice?

    You do realize that melee are taken into groups mostly as a glorified LB, right? What happens if BRD are given a damaging LB? Oh look, even less work for us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Why did I expect a Paladin to understand what its like to be left out of everything due to their class of choice?

    You do realize that melee are taken into groups mostly as a glorified LB, right? What happens if BRD are given a damaging LB? Oh look, even less work for us...
    Gasp! Them damn bards took your job!!
    Took yer jerb!!!
    DOOK DER DERB!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Why did I expect a Paladin to understand what its like to be left out of everything due to their class of choice?

    You do realize that melee are taken into groups mostly as a glorified LB, right? What happens if BRD are given a damaging LB? Oh look, even less work for us...
    You're fine. The only reason you don't get into dungeons is because lancer bitching has turned BRD into flavor of the month.
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    Phai Mui
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    As it is right now, giving BRD a damaging LB will just screw melees (and maybe even casters) even more than we are now. Heck, even after the patch giving BRD a damaging LB will just mean more double-stacking BRD, not less like it should be.
    Yeh that would just make more issues toward class Balance.
    The fact that one ranged (brd) share LB whit healers are good, if healers die, LB3 from brd might save the day, just as melee LB can, and the blm/smn LB can.
    The way LB is set up on diffrent classes atm, seems to be atleast somewhat balanced.
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    Lyrre Myste
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    i would rather have ranged LB be a cleave.

    similar potency to caster lb, but it hits all targets in a straight line in front of the user.
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