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    BiS gear, is it THAT important?

    Currently I possess a few i90 pieces sporting both allagan and Myth pieces, alot of people seem to care whats BiS and personally I only care if the items are i90 or not.

    Question is, is it that important that I have an allagan piece where a myth piece should be? or vise versa?

    The allagan on dragoon looks very very ugly, and i'll probably sport the Wyrm pieces for vanity sakes.
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    Don't think so to be honest and also never seen anyone care either. Seems to me its more about getting that extra few numbers where possible to their healing / attacking.
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    There is not just one version of BiS. There should be at least 3-4 for you using only ilvl90 Myth and Allagan. What you need to do is figure out which combination you want to use, you have no choice but to plan for one and do your best to acquire it.

    The reason behind this is Acc, you don't want to be behind T5 Acc requirement and you don't want to go over it (with food of course) then maximise the secondary stat that fit your own style or the general known rotation. It is up to you how you pick your own BiS, of course some BiS combination are better than others, but they are all within 5% of each others up and down.

    Note: Whatever combination you go for it has to be all Myth and Allagan, no ilvl 70 HQ crafted, they are good only as place holders and Vit for T5 until you aquaria what you need.

    Note 2: You don't have to mix and match everything, you can go almost full Allagan or almost full Myth, I say this because only the main pieces effect how you look, no need to worry how the right side looks like. As I said it is only with in 5% with each others in most cases, just don't go full random.

    Note 3: Example, for BLM best 3 are, : 1- almost full Allagan (Det), 2- half and half (Crit), 3- almost full Myth (SS). They are within 5% range of each others more or less, but they are all calculated to hit the min needed acc with HQ food and max a secondary stat.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 12-09-2013 at 12:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    There is not just one version of BiS. There should be at least 3-4 for you using only ilvl90 Myth and Allagan. What you need to do is figure out which combination you want to use, you have no choice but to plan for one and do your best to acquire it.

    The reason behind this is Acc, you don't want to be behind T5 Acc requirement and you don't want to go over it (with food of course) then maximise the secondary stat that fit your own style or the general known rotation. .
    That.

    As an example: to hit 100% accuracy for Tanks, you'll need 475 for Turns 1-4 and ~482 for Turn 5. The various Tank BIS builds center around keeping that level of Acc whilst maximising some mixture of VIT (for HP), Parry/STR/DEX (for extra block/Parry mitigation) and STR/Crit/Det (For extra DPS and enmity generation).

    If you are missing a few pieces of i90, you can certainly fill in with Darklight or Crafted gear or whatever as long as you keep that Acc requirement (vital!) and buff up the other stats as much as possible (sufficient HP to weather AoEs being the only other thing to watch out for in most endgame situations).
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    Last edited by Maelwys; 12-09-2013 at 09:39 PM.

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    Generally, other i90 pieces will be a small gain over i90 pieces, but over the course of the whole set is where you'll see a difference.
    At most I would expect a ~5% difference.
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    Last edited by Kevee; 12-09-2013 at 12:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Generally, other i90 pieces will be a small gain over i90 pieces, but over the course of the whole set is where you'll see a difference.
    At most I would expect a ~5% difference.
    I would say 5%~ more or less is the difference between each BiS set. However, the difference can go high as 10% if compared to a set that have less than the needed Acc or much more than the actual cap when you need much less.

    I know Acc effect everyone but for a BLM, it is the end of the world when you miss Bliz III at low mana. I'm only assuming DRG are just as effected more or less if they miss an attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    I would say 5%~ more or less is the difference between each BiS set. However, the difference can go high as 10% if compared to a set that have less than the needed Acc or much more than the actual cap when you need much less.

    I know Acc effect everyone but for a BLM, it is the end of the world when you miss Bliz III at low mana. I'm only assuming DRG are just as effected more or less if they miss an attack.
    I was assuming ACC cap.

    I mean, that should be the general assumption.

    I would hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    I was assuming ACC cap.

    I mean, that should be the general assumption.

    I would hope.

    I have seen wonders my friend, had people argue that SMN don't need Acc, crafters telling me full crafted HQ is far superior to full ilvl90, then there was dat person who kept calling me a nub cause I don't spam Fire III in AK.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 12-09-2013 at 01:37 PM.

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    For BLM that difference is about 5 dps, making it a 1-2% difference between the combinations of ilvl 90 items you can use. However, make sure you are Always at, or slightly above the accuracy cap! That's where the real damage differences are.

    So honestly, unless you really want to perfect your class up to the last 0.xx amount of dps, just make sure your combination of ilvl 90 items reaches the accuracy cap (For SMN, also the pet's accuracy cap). After that, most people will spend the myth tomes on other classes, instead of trying to gain 1 additional dps.
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    Not as important as people think in general. Just need to look at the different BLM sets (crit vs speed vs det), they're all within like 5 dps of each others. Hindering your gear progression because you're shooting for a very specific set of equipment is the worst thing you can do on the short term, and considering how long you have to go before they raise gear above 90 you have more than enough time to take a few non optimal upgrades.
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