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    I have a hard time seeing SE actually make a story instance of Coil meaningful. It'd probably involve Papalymo tanking everything in turn 1-5 at the same time while the player has to kill a random add with 2K HP in 3 minutes or otherwise your group of way overpowered NPCs mysteriously wipes.
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    I think people are forgetting...SE is a company...they put out this MMO to make money, it does not matter what we want to see done or not done, i'm sure the Devs and YoshiP have looked at how far the majority of players have played to, and i'm sure if a piece of content is bottle necking the majority of players i'm sure they will do something about it, and of course they look at player feedback, but they don't want to see players get to a certain point in the game/story and get stalled cause of the difficulty or because of some other reason, the more subs there are the more money they get...simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nici View Post
    I think people are forgetting...SE is a company...they put out this MMO to make money, it does not matter what we want to see done or not done, i'm sure the Devs and YoshiP have looked at how far the majority of players have played to, and i'm sure if a piece of content is bottle necking the majority of players i'm sure they will do something about it, and of course they look at player feedback, but they don't want to see players get to a certain point in the game/story and get stalled cause of the difficulty or because of some other reason, the more subs there are the more money they get...simple as that.

    and change the game to the point of ruining it and losing the game they originally wanted to make in the process, just to get a quick buck-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    Lmao wut? This game is slow and easy enough as it is.

    So if I pay for something that I know I'm not good at, I can demand that it become easier? Gesh this generation.
    I'm 37 years old, so not exactly part of the entitled generation. I started at 1.0, where the game did not require fast-paced combat. Also, 1.23 did not require combat as fast paced as what we have now. If ffxiv 1.0 had combat as fast as 2.0, I would not have played it. I would love to play the upcoming Elder Scrolls, but from what I've heard from people who demo'd it at PAX, it requires skills I don't have, so I won't be playing it.

    What I'd like to see, is the storyline regarding Bahamut and Louisoix, started in 1.23, when I could play the game with no problems. Why it's important that I NOT get to see this until 6+ months from now, I don't understand. I don't want gear rewards, I don't want bragging rights, I'd just like to see the rest of the story. How does that take anything away from anyone else?
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptolemy View Post
    and change the game to the point of ruining it and losing the game they originally wanted to make in the process, just to get a quick buck-
    Not necessarily, if they wanted to make a quick buck as you say they could have gone different ways to do that, micro transactions, an item shop..etc, but i think SE and especially YoshiP and the other devs sincerely want to see as many people enjoy the game they have made, i think its just finding that balance between the hardcore players and the casual players who just want to enjoy the story.
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    they did clearly say they will reduce difficulty on current content whenever the next step of that content is released so anyone will be able to experience the story and catch up in gear as content expands
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    ya, youtube.
    I might be elitist for this reply, but damn, you are some lazy people.

    You should have played a bit more with the first consoles, when there was no save function and had to learn what to do if you wanted to reach the end.
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    or instead of asking for an easy mode, you could just, you know, get better at the game?

    A little focus and perserverance (and a more than 5 second attention span) is really all you need. I don't expect everybody I meet to be pro, but I do expect them to learn as they go.

    I don't mind wiping to something 100 times as long as progress is made each time. Just learn the dang content and eventually you'll be one of those people who call turn 4 and 5 "easy."1

    Question: Why do you feel that those of us that pay for the game, but aren't skilled enough to beat Coil not deserve a way to see the story?
    Because skill is something you can aquire. It's possible, and you honestly should have aquired at least a little of it by the time you finish the main scenario. What you haven't learned from that can still be learned in the subsequent battles. Just like any good game difficulty is given to the player in incriments.

    The better question is why you think the story should be handed to you on a silver platter? haven't you played any single player RPGs? They generally get more challenging as you progress....
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    You should have played a bit more with the first consoles, when there was no save function and had to learn what to do if you wanted to reach the end.
    Atari 2600....playing some of the games on that system as a kid...i experienced an emotion i had never experienced before...Nerd Rage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    or instead of asking for an easy mode, you could just, you know, get better at the game?

    A little focus and perserverance (and a more than 5 second attention span) is really all you need. I don't expect everybody I meet to be pro, but I do expect them to learn as they go.

    I don't mind wiping to something 100 times as long as progress is made each time. Just learn the dang content and eventually you'll be one of those people who call turn 4 and 5 "easy."1
    This...coming from raiding experience from that other mmo everyone compares every other mmo to, i can relate to this...its just something you get used to and experience, it was fun and challenging...if something was not working you would try and to come up with something that would work, but also it made you keep up with everyone else in gear progression...if you were not pulling your weight you had to do something...either research on how to play better, rebind/redo your UI to where it feels comfortable to you to play but at the same time have better reaction time of your abilities, upgrade your gear etc etc...there is alot of videos and resources out there, people just have to put in a little effort into reading and searching.
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