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  1. #21
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    Question: Why do you feel that those of us that pay for the game, but aren't skilled enough to beat Coil not deserve a way to see the story?
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
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    Coil having a story does not mean it's part of the story, it would be weird for there to be end game content without any story-based justification but the story ended when the credits rolled.

    Besides the op has already said there is a way, and I agree with it. It will be nerfed eventually through various ways so you can see it then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    Question: Why do you feel that those of us that pay for the game, but aren't skilled enough to beat Coil not deserve a way to see the story?
    YouTube...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Besides the op has already said there is a way, and I agree with it. It will be nerfed eventually through various ways so you can see it then.
    If it will eventually be nerfed, where is the harm in having an easy mode for us to view the story bits now?

    And regarding it not being part of 'the' story, I disagree. For those of us from 1.0 it IS the story, this stuff about the primals is not what I'm particularly interested in. I want to know what happened to Bahamut and Louisoix.

    And Youtube is not the same. It might give me the story, but it won't be as satisfying. It'd be like eating a fat free brownie ^^ not the same thing at all.
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    An easy mode with no allagan gear also doesn't sound bad. However I would feel comfortable betting that a lot of people would not like that and they in fact want to get the rewards as well.

    Though I'd have to ask if they made coil trivial to the point where everyone can just run it to see the story what exactly is satisfying about it, what is the actual difference between that and just watching a video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Though I'd have to ask if they made coil trivial to the point where everyone can just run it to see the story what exactly is satisfying about it, what is the actual difference between that and just watching a video?
    Playing devil's advocate, because I'd honestly rather see Coil not get nerfed, but I'd say the difference is immersion. It's one thing to watch a cutscene, it's another to watch the cutscene unfold as you(and your character) are moving through the story. It's one of the things that bugs me about CM and Praetorium, for example. Yes, I can easily go to the inn and watch the cutscenes there, and they'll even have my character in them, but I'd rather enjoy watching the story in the dungeons, the way it was intended. The fights, after all, are a huge part of the set pieces for the story.

    With that said, again, I'm not someone who wants Coil nerfed. At least not anytime soon. I think the current path they're taking is more than acceptable, implementing Crystal Tower to act as a bridge between the majority of the endgame dungeons and Coil 1-5.
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    Probably because you have till 2.2 to beat coil and see the story. Not to mention it is slowly getting easier due to all the gear you acquire till then. Myth gear / Crystal Tower stuff come 2.1
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    Lmao wut? This game is slow and easy enough as it is.

    So if I pay for something that I know I'm not good at, I can demand that it become easier? Gesh this generation.
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    I wish I knew how Super Mario Bros ended too but I wasn't good enough to get past the final world. Did he defeat king koopa? Did he rescue the princess or was she in another castle? I'll never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvokerKeii View Post
    I wish I knew how Super Mario Bros ended too but I wasn't good enough to get past the final world. Did he defeat king koopa? Did he rescue the princess or was she in another castle? I'll never know.
    You should demand that it be made easier! How dare they make a game not easy enough for you! How dare they suggest that you should improve on your skills and get better to be able to beat the game....how dare they...
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