Patches and scheduled downtime

[yukikaze_yanagi]

I'm sorry you have an issue losting a evening of play time. however, if they change maintance time to accomodate you, then I would have an issue. It work like that with world-wide games. Sorry for you, but like they say in my country, eat your soup, or jump the window

[PyrosX]

If they set it at one specific time then one group of people would consistently be stopped from playing whenever they need maintenance (which is a lot) so they rotate it. Also as they rarely tell us what they are doing, there could very well be game breaking bugs, they just don't tell us about it.

That's logic based on information you do not have. I'd imagine that depending on the servers region, there is a very clear difference to when players actually login to play. They could use that information to select a time that typically sees the least amount of effect to players. This is, in fact, a game that is funded by players. The point of having region based servers is not simply to assist players so they have others who play at similar times, there are many other purposes including to better schedule patch times.

I'm sorry you have an issue losting a evening of play time. however, if they change maintance time to accomodate you, then I would have an issue. It work like that with world-wide games. Sorry for you, but like they say in my country, eat your soup, or jump the window

Reading is fundamental. Also, they dont need to patch every country at the same time. That's why there are regional servers.....


Ok, enough time wasted here. My point has been made, though that may still remain to be seen by others. Hopefully Square will take the issue seriously.

Adios!

[yukikaze_yanagi]

They could use that information to select a time that typically sees the least amount of effect to players.

If that hour ever exist between america, europe and japan...

Reading is fundamental.

i readed. I understood. I posted. And you're dreaming. Do you really think shifting their maintance time would serve you something ? Don't you think someone else will have your same problem ? But the important it's you don't have to deal with it, right ?

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Well guys I don't know why you think this thread is a troll but it's true, this game has downtime once every night more or less. I'm lucky with timezone but I think there are a lot of people complaining about it because it's always happening.
That's a really bad way to handle this with in company.

[Raskbuck]

I'm sorry you have an issue losting a evening of play time. however, if they change maintance time to accomodate you, then I would have an issue. It work like that with world-wide games. Sorry for you, but like they say in my country, eat your soup, or jump the window

From what I'm gathering so far, whenever a thread like this pops up, people are essentially saying: "No, how you feel doesn't matter. Just shut up and keep playing, or just quit."
That kind of resolution also seems like an issue to me, in my opinion. It's the lack of communication and possible solutions that makes people feel frustrated about it.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

From what I'm gathering so far, whenever a thread like this pops up, people are essentially saying: "No, how you feel doesn't matter. Just shut up and keep playing, or just quit."
That kind of resolution also seems like an issue to me, in my opinion. It's the lack of communication and possible solutions that makes people feel frustrated about it.

Because there isn't a solution, other than stopping making maintance. Yes, this is the kind of problem no matter how you can be vocal, it cannot be solved. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand.

[Felis]

Patches have come more than once a week, though not regularly. There should be a standard down time so at least players know what to expect. Outside of that, there should only be patches on a priorty basis, if a major game breaking bug is found.

until now, patches came not more than once a week (except end september and mid october once)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/category/3

Or do you mean maintenances, which don't have patches all the time?
And the last maintenance was last week. The next would be the first this week.

[Tupsi]

If it's brought up again it means it's a concern that still affects people

Except...every topic and complaint known to man is brought up..over and over and over and doesn't necessarily mean it's valid. People complain you don't get enough gil from quests, over and over..is that a legitimate problem? People will complain about maintenance no matter what, even if it doesn't affect them "because it can affect someone else." Yes, that's what happens when you choose to play an MMORPG.

So, I would rather not pay for something that I cannot count on and which also occasionally frustrates me (downtimes again). I'm making a post hoping for some kind of change. You're making a post to get a sadistic chuckle out of pissing people off.

You can play the game right now - What's stopping you? How are you unable to play the game (or count on as you say) for something that's not happening for another 2 weeks? I'm also not being anything other than realistic - Calling someone "lifeless" while being upset over future downtime to update the game..? Yeah.

[Taliph]

Facts:
Hot fixes and patches are NOT nightly, lodestone proves this.
Hot fixes and patches cannot be scheduled separately for the different data centers. Exploits would be exposed and abused in the time between data center updates.
The forum rules state that you should search for your topic before posting a new one. Who reads the stickies, right?

Conclusion, this thread is a troll thread.

[Raskbuck]

Because there isn't a solution, other than stopping making maintance. Yes, this is the kind of problem no matter how you can be vocal, it cannot be solved. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand.

Seems like a rather pessimistic way of looking at things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's like saying "It's what you get, deal with it.", no? Doesn't that put Square Enix into an almost untouchable position that cannot be criticized?

What I'm saying is, the best way to reach a common ground for community problems is trying to balance things out. Maybe make the server maintenance different for the servers depending on the region; perhaps try to reduce the frequency of the maintenances, I don't know. Saying there is no solution isn't exactly helping the people who are feeling troubled about it, but it does seem like the easiest thing to do.

Except...every topic and complaint known to man is brought up..over and over and over and doesn't necessarily mean it's valid. People complain you don't get enough gil from quests, over and over..is that a legitimate problem? People will complain about maintenance no matter what, even if it doesn't affect them "because it can affect someone else." Yes, that's what happens when you choose to play an MMORPG.

Well it certainly depends on the topic in question, I agree. Maybe it is a legitimate problem that's addressed in a wrong way. In your example, perhaps the gil received from the quests isn't the issue per se, but maybe the real problem is the ridiculous amount of it needed to buy a Vitality IV Materia due to its really random nature to obtain it (just to name an example, so please take it with a grain of salt).