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  1. #31
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    Sheapy's Avatar
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    Sheapy Exylius
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    With that gear I solo healed Ifrit in an average party (ilvl60/partial DL) and I had the best HPS against Garuda.
    Aaand, I solo healed all the endgame dungeons.
    I don't think solo healing can be "carried".
    HPS doesn't mean shit. Just because you shit there mashing Adlo or Cure II over and over again doesn't mean you're a better healer. Solo healing Ifrit isn't even that hard as long as people dodge stuff. The only mandatory raid damage is the nuke after nails. Hell I've solo healed Ifrit as my BLM just for jokes before in a full DPS + WAR party. Any healer that quotes HPS trying to prove skill honestly doesn't understand their role at all.
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  2. #32
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    YanDere's Avatar
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheapy View Post
    HPS doesn't mean shit. Just because you shit there mashing Adlo or Cure II over and over again doesn't mean you're a better healer. Solo healing Ifrit isn't even that hard as long as people dodge stuff. The only mandatory raid damage is the nuke after nails. Hell I've solo healed Ifrit as my BLM just for jokes before in a full DPS + WAR party. Any healer that quotes HPS trying to prove skill honestly doesn't understand their role at all.
    I'm not trying to "prove my skills".
    Some idiot was saying "undergeared" means "carried", then I provided a piece of information about what I did.
    And "mashing Cure II over and over again" is just wrong because you'll waste all of your MP overhealing.
    If you have to point your finger on people assuming they're bad players, then you can shut up and seem a bit intelligent.
    If I wanted to prove my skills I'd just dance in the Conjurer's Guild spamming Holy and yelling "LOOK AT MEH!"
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  3. #33
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cryvil View Post
    The only requirement for a Titan tank is that they know enough to not eat bombs and not get their fellow party members struck with a cleave. As long as the healer knows the fight, an AF-geared tank is fine. I'm much more annoyed with a tank who moves during bombs than I am over any gear issue.

    Tanks! You can stand in the NE corner and not take any bomb damage ever! You never have to move from the beginning of the heart phase to the end. Please, get one of those drinking birds, set it over a key bound to Rage of Halone, and go afk. Spend some time with your kids, get to know your wife...Mr. Drinking Bird will be a far better tank than a player unfamiliar with the fight
    Tanking this fight is incredibly easy. However to hold hate they need a primal weapon and AK gear to mitigate damage.
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  4. #34
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    Necaust's Avatar
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    Necaust Xi
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tisten View Post
    Seriously though, way to many players in AF gear and i-lvl 45/below gear que for this in hopes to be carried. (they are proving to be way to heavy to often) If you put an in-game item level check in order to que, there will be more victorious DF ques for Titan HM.....
    Titan HM most certainly should require a gear check to join. Having 3 or more players in level 30ish gear....yes its happened. Didn't even bother to do their job quests for those armors. I don't mind helping others but that's just lazy. Hopefully we can have the option to replace those that leave as well someday. Inexperience is one thing. Being a total ...... is another.
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  5. #35
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    Flig Neldajoa
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    Goblin
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    I don't know what to say about this fight except my own experiences with it. For the last week I've been trying to kill this guy for my relic and even though I've spent about 2 hrs a day, I've yet to beat him... and here's why. It's not so much people dying from random plumes or bombs, but instead my groups can never get passed the heart. I always look at the parser and this what I see almost every time - Dmg to heart - me at 12-14k (not counting LB), 2nd place at 4-6k, 3rd at 4-5k, 4th at 3-4k. I've gotten to the point where I purposefully do less dps during the entire fight before the heart to ensure lb 2 can be used during the heart, yet it doesn't matter. With me slowing down my dps, by the end of the fight I'll be sitting at 150 dps (190 when I try) and then the others will all be below 90. It's very frustrating. As for my gear, I have garuda weapon with 4 pc DL and mix of 55-60 in the rest of the slots, also I am a monk.

    Now I would say perhaps a gear check would help, but many times I see others in the same type of gear that I have, yet people just for some reason cannot dps for some reason. Anyway, that fight via DF is very hard and very frustrating. Would I want them to nerf the fight? Not really because for now there isn't much else to do when I do get my relic weapon so I'm not feeling super rushed at the moment.
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  6. #36
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    Necaust Xi
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    I don't know what to say about this fight except my own experiences with it. For the last week I've been trying to kill this guy for my relic and even though I've spent about 2 hrs a day, I've yet to beat him... and here's why


    I've seen dragoons spamming chaos thrust and blm spamming blizzard III. Suppose that may be why I've witnessed several failures at heart even with +1 dps in group. However, the past few days there's been a series of dragoons and SMN whom are breaking records for landslides encountered though. Not to mention a cleric geared WHM going afk at the start and refusing to play if a single player has level 55 gear.
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  7. #37
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    WellFooled's Avatar
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Seems to me that a person that wants to be part of a team would bring his best, because his performance impacts everyone he is grouped with. With this in mind, it makes me shake my head when players join Titan HM in low level gear. For every additional stat you have you're making it that much easier on everyone else.

    Sure it can be beaten in your AF, but if you grab some AK gear and a few darklight pieces just imagine how much that will make things easier for everyone you're with. I think its universally understood that selflessness is a virtue, but if we queue up in sub-par gear aren't we being selfish? Wouldn't we be in effect saying that the other members in our party aren't important enough for us to come as prepared as we can be?
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

  8. #38
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    Asuras's Avatar
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    Asuras Blood
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 89
    The amount of illogic in this discussion astounds me.
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  9. #39
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
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    It's not selfish, as long as you know you can easily do it 99% of the time.
    If you queue to get carried, then you are being selfish not caring about the others, but if you join Titan HM and you heal/tank/dps efficiently, then there's nothing to complain about.
    In my case, for example, I play undergeared (not anymore, I'm full DL+relic now), but that doesn't mean I don't care about succeeding. I queue, I enter, and if no one complains about my gear I always manage to do my best properly, doing Titan with 2900 HP without problems as a WHM in a WHM-SCH 2heal group.
    And please stop saying I'm getting carried, I've had enough.
    You can see it as "xy=k", where X is the gear, and Y is the skill: the higher your gear, the less skill you'll need, the less skill you have, the higher gear you'll need.
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  10. #40
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I don't think anyone is saying if you don't have the gear you can't complete Titan. The past has shown that AF+DL or bikini + relic CAN beat titan. It's just that 90% of the people who play FFXIV aren't as skilled as those players. So having a minimum gear requirement would give a bigger buffer for people who aren't as skilled. And from my experience, most of the AF+i55 weapon people are the first to die.

    And from my understanding the gear check WON'T BE MANDATORY FOR FULLY FORMED PARTIES. Therefore, it shouldn't affect the people who want the 'challenge'. They just need to make their own group.

    For Yandere: Most (not all) people aren't saying you're being carried, it just makes the fight overall easier for everyone collectively if you're geared. That's all. More room for mistakes, no 'one mess up and you wipe' mentality. If you're geared enough you CAN take a bomb that you lagged during and live. Or possibly a double plume. It's just a greater chance of success.
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