Titan HM Item Level Check Please Yoshi..!!

[warren-ragnarok]

i dont agree with OP at all on this, it may "help" make DF wins more likely, but i highly doubt its gonna increase it that much.....too many people fail at dodging, and some people just dont know how to play their jobs. i (unfortunately) personally know a mnk with garuda claws, and full DL, never once parsed above 90 on titan up to phase 5, and he was always dead by phase 5, at least once. titan needs a skill check and a reaction check, since thats basically what you need to survive

ps. first time i did titan on my mnk, GC weapon with mostly AK gear, some level 48ish accessories, and 2 DL pieces (body and legs) with 137 dps, only outparsed by the drg with a relic and full DL in the group, with a 164

[Tisten]

i dont agree with OP at all on this

Cryvil,
Clearly, HM Titan is more of a difficult fight than the other two primals which would suggest better gear & more experience in game/dungeons overall to complete it. As it sits, any lvl 50 can que for it. It would be better experience for an un-experienced player to build their gear through other dungeon experience's, work to meet a required itemlvl check. By the time they reach a certain Item level to que for HM Titan, chances are they'll be better players over-all & not get flamed on as much in game. Just saying

A little clarity on my original post when I responded to Cryvil (the first response.... LOL), perhaps you should of read the rest of the thread? idk I underlined something to take note of? :P

[Seezur_Undies]

Ok, this makes a little since, but i have been in Titan runs where the main reason have wiped wasn't because people were under geared it (and yes, I have had my share of wipes in titan) because of .3 Second Positional Update. I am fixing this on my end cause my system cant handle endgame.

That being said, putting a iLevel requirement on a duty seems redundant until that is fixed. Also if they do that, why not put an ilevel cap on CM or Prae, where geared out 50s go and berate fresh 50s for not knowing the fights, watching the cutscenes, or basically enjoying the fact that their hard work since level one is finally paying off?

[One_WingedAngel]

Titan is beatable with AF/ak gear so if there is to be gear check it wouldn't really help you, and if they put the bar above that, it will suck out lot of fun for some of us like to go in with minimum gear for the extra challenge.

[Akirakogami]

you really have to luck out with df to do titan.

You need to form a party outside of it so you don't have to use 2 tanks. the extra dps from another real dpser will help alot.

[Cryvil]

you really have to luck out with df to do titan.

You need to form a party outside of it so you don't have to use 2 tanks. the extra dps from another real dpser will help alot.

When I run in CF, I switch to Cleric Stance for heart. Warrior and Sword Stance Paladin damage isn't that bad. It's certainly doable at 2-2-4. That said, it IS terrible that square gives these parties an -additional- increase in difficulty by not giving them the optimal party. I've seen plenty of parties that don't even get a monk or dragoon. Plenty of those have passed anyway, but considering Square obviously expects at-level parties to use LB, that's a pretty bad oversight.

[TirionCrey]

Gear requirements for content is coming with 2.1.

/closethread

[AlternativeOne]

I think a primal weapon and some DL should be the minimum requirement. IL70 is about what I think is needed by everyone especially if you don't have experience with the patterns. Or haven't made it to P5 enough to know whats going to happen. Was in a DF group today where everyone was IL55 with pinks and AF. I was OOM in the 2nd phase and saw each bomb pattern 3 time each. Its rude as hell to enter this fight geared like that. Dont care what your reason or weather or not you killed it before on another job or what ever. Thats bullsh**. You cant survive tumult post heart in that gear know matter how good your healers are or how much skills you have. I need proof if your going to argue other wise. Being carried by 4-5 relics don't count.
New guy joined the FC today or when ever and we took him into titan for his first relic. He was dead 99% of the time and we was getting smashed for a while before we swapped a few members and tried again. This is a group with 6/8 +1 relics. So gear dont mean much if you cant dodge but it mean everything when your dps is so low bomb pattern repeat 3 times and your defense and hp so low that 3 tumults kills you or you get one shotted by a single plume from full health. Your wasting everyone's time. I would feel like crap if I entered like that and then dragged everyone down cause Im dead or not contributing enough to its death with my dps. I dont even think you deserve a relic till you can survive the whole damn fight. No way IL55 group can do that even with perfect dodging.

Just my opinion on it since I fought it so many times. Maybe I a bit pissed cause my FC just carried a noob through the fight and I was part of it. I feel like crap and want him to give his relic back till he can earn it. lol

[Cryvil]

Was in a DF group today where everyone was IL55 with pinks and AF. I was OOM in the 2nd phase and saw each bomb pattern 3 time each.

New guy joined the FC today or when ever and we took him into titan for his first relic.

Maybe I a bit pissed cause my FC just carried a noob through the fight and I was part of it. I feel like crap and want him to give his relic back till he can earn it. lol

Well, this really speaks for itself. Is he a strawman or is he really this stupid/heartless? I can't believe there are FCs out there who would allow him to speak publicly about a new member like this.

[Sasagawa]

to the OP:

Titan doesnt really require gear as much as Skill