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  1. #101
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    coffeeking's Avatar
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    Coffeee King
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    Lich
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I hope WHM remains a usefull class...it's my only lvl 50 >.>
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    Fantasy above reality.

  2. #102
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    Deneb Algiedi
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Hmm, I find it interesting that very few people have mentioned what happens when a Scholar's adloquium crits. Essentially, the barrier effect is doubled on a crit. That means if you adloquium to recover 1khp and 1k barrier normally, it crits for 1.5k hp and a 3k barrier. The added benefit is that it doesn't scale with hp like stoneskin, so very useful for non-tanks. Of course, the barrier is wasted if they don't take damage in 30 seconds, but it gives non-tanks breathing room and it gives the scholar time to top the tank off or apply debuffs. Succor's barrier has the same effect on aoe, although it caps at a lower potency.

    I have found that proper use of a SCH requires the player to really know all the attack patterns from the boss. Experience fighting the enemy makes a huge difference for scholars, more so than for WHM I believe. The problem I see is that when a WHM makes mistakes, they take their toll from their mp. If there is a bard, they can help cover for a weak WHM. When a scholar messes up, it appears as damage and hp loss, which is not so easily correctable by a non-healer.

    On a personal note, I find myself preferring SCH compared to WHM. I much prefer the ability to plan my skills and dislike the random spellprocs of the WHM cure series. That is just my preference though.
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    Last edited by Anova; 11-25-2013 at 04:48 AM.

  3. #103
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    Zer0mr's Avatar
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    Zero West
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by coffeeking View Post
    I hope WHM remains a usefull class...it's my only lvl 50 >.>
    SCH isn't on the take over. Both jobs have uses and both jobs have their own role in fights.
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  4. #104
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    SCH can't tank Titan hard mode, whm wins.
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  5. #105
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    SCH can't tank Titan hard mode, whm wins.
    i have a scholar in my FC that i have seen solo titan HM on multiple occasions.

    both classes are viable at all levels of content.

    i have had scholars crit for more than 1k with convalescence active on turn 2 coil, and consistently crit for 1k off convalescence. that is about the equivalent to the 18% shield that stoneskin gives me. (my HP as of now is 6.2k with party buff and food)
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    Last edited by saber_alter; 11-29-2013 at 04:44 AM.

  6. #106
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    White Mage Lv 90
    He still can't tank Titan HM
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  7. #107
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    He still can't tank Titan HM
    I'm not sure how a WHM can tank Titan HM either (if we're talking about the literal sense of tanking and not just who's a boss healer). Mountain Buster will destroy you.

    That or you're talking about XI where a WHM can basically tank almost anything in the game.

    Or you're trolling very hard. If so, troll successful.

    [EDIT] To be honest, if it's possible for a WHM to tank Titan HM, I'd legitimately love to see it. I tanked everything as a WHM back in the day on XI, would love to see it all again over here on XIV.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 11-29-2013 at 06:48 AM.

  8. #108
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    White Mage Lv 90
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TDzbqfEAo

    This is what happens when we run out of content =(

    Next up, 7smn 1 sch!
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  9. #109
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    He still can't tank Titan HM
    until i have visual proof of this, i remain unconvinced. sure whm can, but i have yet to see sch attempt.

    @Ghishlain: effectively any class is perfectly capable of tanking a titan, but you would have to treat mountain buster as you would death sentence (you should be anyway).
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  10. #110
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Sch could take the hits same as I could, but much like the dps jobs, a sch wouldn't be able to hold enmity for the duration.
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