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  1. #91
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    Noxaddo's Avatar
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    Noxaddo Bloodtear
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    Basically I learned to leave the big boy heals to my WHM buddy. WHM buddy can crit for 3.5k on cure 2, he got that part covered.
    because WHM can crit on command.
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  2. #92
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    Noxaddo Bloodtear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    Basically I learned to leave the big boy heals to my WHM buddy.WHM buddy can crit for 3.5k on cure 2, he got that part covered.
    yes, because WHM can crit on command
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  3. #93
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    YanDere's Avatar
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    If you want to maximize probabilities of success, then you need both WHM and SCH in the party.
    The only exception is Caduceus, where I strongly suggest the double WHM because of the sudden strong hits the tanks will receive, that can be difficult for a SCH. But still, if the SCH knows what he does, it's still better WHM and SCH.
    Don't know why people keeps comparing classes, they're DIFFERENT. Each one has its strengths and weaknesses, WHM is strong in healing but weak in buffing and preventing, SCH is slightly weaker than WHM in heals but he can prevent lots of damage and has a pet supporting the party.
    Stop comparing them, they are DIFFERENT, they have DIFFERENT skills, DIFFERENT stats, DIFFERENT purposes. And they work together, each one covering the other's weaknesses.
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  4. #94
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    Soup Sifu
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxaddo View Post
    because WHM can crit on command.
    Did I say he could crit on demand? Please show me where I said those words exactly.

    Since you missed the point, I guess I'll hold your hand and walk you through my point. WHM have higher potency heals than SCH, without wasting a stack of aetherflow.
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  5. #95
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    Citizen_Thom's Avatar
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    Talking Crow
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    WHM has Repose. With a pick up game and a WAR tank spamming Overpower, it's not helpful... but in all other situations Repose is great at mitigating damage. I've been leveling WHM for Stoneskin on my SCH (took CNJ to 27, then ACN/SCH to 35, and just dinged 30 on WHM), and as a WHM, Reposing the enemies #2, #3, #4 etc. is just as good at eliminating damage spikes as Adloquim + Faery is.

    I like the play style of SCH better personally, but WHM can do a lot of things that SCH can't. (Just as much as SCH can do a lot of things WHM can't)
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  6. #96
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    Did I say he could crit on demand? Please show me where I said those words exactly.

    Since you missed the point, I guess I'll hold your hand and walk you through my point. WHM have higher potency heals than SCH, without wasting a stack of aetherflow.
    But physick + fairy heal on the same target gives about the potency as a cure II and costs WAY less MP to cast. Lustrate for me are emergency heals when I need a heal right that very second to keep the tank alive long enough so I can get a physick on him or my fairy can get an embrace off. Aetherflow stacks don't really bother me all that much. Plus they recharge way faster than WHM's benediction. Sch's CAN pull off big heals if we utilize our fairies the right way.
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  7. #97
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    Sylari's Avatar
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    Asriel Blackthorne
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    Don't know why people keeps comparing classes
    Because they fill the same role and are therefore competing for slots in dungeons and raids?
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  8. #98
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    Leon Stormrage
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxaddo View Post
    because WHM can crit on command.
    WHM has the best party healing, My AoE healing is so low, WHM OP OP OP OP, also they have regen it's so unfair! :'(
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  9. #99
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    Ishiene Phye
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    But physick + fairy heal on the same target gives about the potency as a cure II and costs WAY less MP to cast. Lustrate for me are emergency heals when I need a heal right that very second to keep the tank alive long enough so I can get a physick on him or my fairy can get an embrace off. Aetherflow stacks don't really bother me all that much. Plus they recharge way faster than WHM's benediction. Sch's CAN pull off big heals if we utilize our fairies the right way.
    All of this is true, but people also seem to forget things about Whitemage they don't factor in either. Like Regen. Regen hardly costs any mp. It is insta cast and can be replaced almost at anytime. Hit that divine seal and then use your regen and you'll notice a significant increase of healing. Around 500hp recovered per tick for me. Add that number to a cure 1/2. It even works during medica 2. A parties hp is restored in a matter of seconds. During those times I can solo heal anything without a problem or allow a scholar to heal effortlessly while I rebuff a party with a better protect that a scholar can't give to the fallen or stoneskin to members. There are things like the debuff that decreases healing potency, but that also affects the physic. Lustrate is good for those times, but there are times as well when you need to get someone past a certain hp point and you won't be able to do that fast enough. Might not have enough stacks, ect. In that case you have that one last emergency button.

    I love to play both classes. I like both of their styles and how different they are. I'm glad they aren't carbon copies of each other. I just don't believe there is one that is better than the other. As a level 50, I'm getting close to being in all ilvl90. My mp is almost at 5k. The self mp regen I get along with constant use of shroud at correct times and the constant use of divine seal + regen, I hardly ever worry about mp anymore. Being both healers, our roles are to keep the party alive. I personally see the skills of a scholar, at least for me, as an extension of my abilities and the same when I play as a Scholar towards a whitemage.
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  10. #100
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylari View Post
    Because they fill the same role and are therefore competing for slots in dungeons and raids?
    They may have the same role, but they don't heal the same way, so it's totally useless to compare them, no one is better than the other.
    How can you not understand something that simple? The WHM and the SCH are TOTALLY different healers.
    I can see from your words that you have NEVER healed a single party in your life, and if you have, then you must be really stupid.
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