punished for too many relics?

[Grailer]

once again hard core raid crew get gifted with cookies while the hard working journeymen get crapped on like mongrel dogs .

[Pseudopsia]

Seriously though...
Why do this?
I never get that pay to win mind set. It's like buying a $60 steak dinner then paying someone else to eat it also.

He's yanking the OP's chain. There's no coil group willing to give away weapons for such a small amount of gil.

[EvokerKeii]

once again hard core raid crew get gifted with cookies while the hard working journeymen get crapped on like mongrel dogs .

Once again, no changes are being made to Relic+1. How does no change suddenly change everything?

[SinisterJoint]

But its not the players fault that its "easy". We didn't make it and se did nothing to stop the titan sells. But the. are punipunishing us...

you aren't being punished, you are probably a person who bought a titan kill, and now that you wont have the best weapon in the game are going to cry about it like you are being punished? Stop acting like a child.

once again hard core raid crew get gifted with cookies while the hard working journeymen get crapped on like mongrel dogs .

lmao, you want the top end weapon in the game without putting any "hard work" into it. just stop while you're ahead

[Hanemakikaze]

I'm so...confused here. Are they downgrading relics? No? Deleting your progress? No? Snatching babies? Possibly. I'm about 90% sure OP is trolling, but punishment? At what point has SE punished anyone for having their relic exactly, what, did people expect the gear treadmill to not get rolling months after release? I'm so...confused, as this is the circle of life when it comes to any mmo, even guild wars 2.

This is all that comes to mind about the whiners, and just like that vid you all give me a hell of a good laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeHPFR3f0

[Zedine]

He's yanking the OP's chain. There's no coil group willing to give away weapons for such a small amount of gil.

Even so, I know people who buy/sell Titan wins. I don't get that. Why play a game just to have someone else do content for you. If you want to play a game that plays itself or other people play for you just go watch "Lets Play" Videos or streams of top teams/players. The fact that you buy a win for an item or drop has always eluded me. It's not the same as buying an item in the market as you don't have the craft to get it, but if you have the class to use the item, you can obtain it through the dungeon or duty.

If they item isn't sell/trade it is for a reason. The item is more a symbol of your accomplishments. Every time i see a Relic I should think. "Man that guy beat Titan Hard Mode"
Now I'm like "hmmm wonder if he bought his relic.. his gear seems bad, besides his relic...."

I don't want this to start happening to Coil. Which it might since people are complaining it is too hard, and top teams are already clearing it regularly and before the next coil update might start selling wins.

[Tribunus]

Coil requires Titan HM to enter, why on earth would an item that appears before Coil be as good as an item that appears at the end of the games current top tier of content. Idiotic to even think it should be the same or even close.

[DragonSlayer45]

Here's the thing: Relics are way too easy to get, and way too easy to +1, albeit more grindy. Titan HM is the only roadblock in the entire Relic questline, and even that's nullified when you get a good FC/static who knows the fight well.

The Allagan weapons needed a buff.

[Pseudopsia]

Snip

I don't like it either, however I understand as long as there is the ability to sell runs it will happen. Some players find it easier to acquire gil through legitimate means or not. Others are in a group that find farming Titan is easier than acquiring that amount of gil. So exchange will happen.

Getting angry and saying it's morally wrong is not going to change a thing even if you're right. Only way to reduce this is if SE takes action to prevent it. So having a lot of players pressuring SE to do something about it maybe a better approach.

It's going to take a long time before this will happens to Coil especially for the weapons since it's locked for a week.

[Zedine]

I'm not saying it is wrong, because yeah lets say I enjoy crafting and made 40 million gil and I want a relic but don't want to waste time/energy because i don't enjoy it it might seem reasonable then to buy it. I mean you can buy other items. But if that is my play style, why do I even need it besides shiny glowing pixels?

The point I am trying to make is that the only reason to have a top tier is so that it helps you do harder content. If you cant complete the current content, why have the new item, what makes you think you can complete the harder content? The only other reason to have these items is for show of your accomplishments, but with achievements you can see who beat coil regardless of weapon drop. You can also see that they didn't earn it if their skill is extremely lacking in luster.

I just don't understand it. It isn't that I don't like it, it's just strange in my opinion. Why pay for this game, pay for a monthly fee then pay for someone to do content for you?