punished for too many relics?

[Wyvernheart]

But its not the players fault that its "easy". We didn't make it and se did nothing to stop the titan sells. But the. are punipunishing us...

[permbanned]

But its not the players fault that its "easy". We didn't make it and se did nothing to stop the titan sells. But the. are punipunishing us...

Then if you think that it should have been harder and would have liked a challenge why not just get allagan weapons? Twintania isn't exactly an easy fight.

[Alberel]

But its not the players fault that its "easy". We didn't make it and se did nothing to stop the titan sells. But the. are punipunishing us...

They aren't touching the relic weapons so how are they punishing you? They are simply improving the rewards for defeating Twintania, which requires you to have the relic weapon anyway! You realise the Allagan weapons are already better than relic for most jobs right?

[Johnist]

They aren't touching the relic weapons so how are they punishing you? They are simply improving the rewards for defeating Twintania, which requires you to have the relic weapon anyway! You realise the Allagan weapons are already better than relic for most jobs right?

Requires an Item of Level 80 (relic) yes, dos not require a +1 (90). Because Moogle Weapons are being boosted to 80, you no longer ven NEED a relic to do Twintania with 2.1.

Not to menton if there are Weapons at the end of the Crystal Tower and are Item Level 80 as well.

I hope that Pharos Sirius or the HM dungeons give an iLevel 60 weapon since the only i60s at the moment are Ifrit.

[SinisterJoint]

But its not the players fault that its "easy". We didn't make it and se did nothing to stop the titan sells. But the. are punipunishing us...

you aren't being punished, you are probably a person who bought a titan kill, and now that you wont have the best weapon in the game are going to cry about it like you are being punished? Stop acting like a child.

once again hard core raid crew get gifted with cookies while the hard working journeymen get crapped on like mongrel dogs .

lmao, you want the top end weapon in the game without putting any "hard work" into it. just stop while you're ahead

[Lurkios]

Relic should be a long/hard quest to get the best weapon in game.
Beating the hardest content on game should net you a relic upgrade.
Any drop beating the best relic version is a design flaw.

Don't you agree?

No. I very much like the ability to have full Relic/AF gear this early in the game. Gives a lot of definition to the classes. If SE were to say that the Relic is now and forever the best weapon we'd never get any new content, what would be the point of doing it?

[Sargon]

No. I very much like the ability to have full Relic/AF gear this early in the game. Gives a lot of definition to the classes. If SE were to say that the Relic is now and forever the best weapon we'd never get any new content, what would be the point of doing it?

You missed my point.
I'm saying relic should get upgraded as new content becomes available, so that the relic +X can always be the best weapon.
So I don't mind allagan being better thant relic+1 as long as we get the opportunity to build a relic +2 stronger than allagan.

[Shaone]

Technically speaking, Allagan gear is a type of relic, from the 3rd astral era. Not as clumsy or random as a gun blade; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

Those "other" relics from the quest were clearly inferior, they failed the test of time and decayed to the point of being worthless, then needed to have the power infused into a new form. So they aren't true relics, in my opinion, more like replicas, and the stats should reflect that.

[Vanidin]

But its not the players fault that its "easy". We didn't make it and se did nothing to stop the titan sells. But the. are punipunishing us...

pun·ish
ˈpəniSH/
verb
verb: punish; 3rd person present: punishes; past tense: punished; past participle: punished; gerund or present participle: punishing

1.
inflict a penalty or sanction on (someone) as retribution for an offense, esp. a transgression of a legal or moral code.

You're not being punished. They're balancing content, it happens often in MMO's.

SE never said that relics would be the only weapon we'd ever need or that they'd always be the best weapon available. As others have said relic is very easy to get... why should something easy to get be as powerful as the hard to get items?