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    What kind of DPS do you guys pull on T5? I've been spending a lot of time in there recently and I seem top out around 275.

    I've been using Easy's/Ayvar's "FR-less" rotation for the most part (HT-ID-Dis-CT-Ph-TT-VT-FT-HT-TT-VT-FT-Ph-ID-Dis-CT-HT-TT-VT-FT-Ph-TT-VT-FT), but I'm starting to think that including FR might be a better choice.

    My reason being is that when switching from Twin to the conflags, FR dot would still be ticking.

    Is this the typical range for a DRG in T5? You can see my gear/stats here: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/2404936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kismet View Post
    My reason being is that when switching from Twin to the conflags, FR dot would still be ticking.
    That's not a legitimate reason to use FR. Your FR would still be ticking for tiny damage, after you take a direct damage penalty (depending on the last attack prior).

    Analysis:

    1. Going into a conflag, you shouldn't be optimizing DPS on twintania. You should be setting up for the conflag / I don't care how good your group's dps is and how slow the conflag is, you should do good so your group can swap back to T asap.

    2. Setting up for a conflag involves a HT on Twint and ID on Twint, transitioning to the Disembowel immediately on the conflag. There's no room for FR here.

    3. All that said, assuming you are one GCD behind the HT mentioned above, you are presented with a choice: "what should my last GCD on Twintania be before I prep for the conflag?".

    Your options (DE-adjusted):

    TT: 165p
    VT: 220p
    FT: 330p
    ID: 198p
    DE: 242p
    CT: 176+200p (376)p
    PH: 187+120p (307)p
    PH-3: 187+60p (247)p
    FR: 110+120 (230)p

    Just skimming across the numbers, FR is less effective to use than FT/DE/CT/PH and DamnNearEven to VT. In VT's case, it's likely worth finishing the combo through FT and then prepping for conflag.

    Note on PH-3: that is Phlebotomize when you clip 3 ticks of it (6.01-8.99 seconds left on the debuff).

    So, if you were about to use 5 out of 7 of your regular rotation's attacks, they are better. If you were about to use a TT or ID before prepping for conflag, then FR is better. Depending on the time left on PH (<9s, and whether it was buffed or not so you can actually clip successfully), you may be able to throw in an out-of-cycle PH instead.


    Edit: For early wipes in T5 I'm in the 300 range because I AOE spam the dragons.

    Edit: I looked at your lodestone profile and you could probably improve your DPS if you chugged a fantasia potion and switched to anything else besides a Lalafell.

    Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Edit: I looked at your lodestone profile and you could probably improve your DPS if you chugged a fantasia potion and switched to anything else besides a Lalafell.
    But then I couldn't make fun of my raid for being out dps'd by a Lalafell DRG!

    Thanks for the detailed analysis Easy. I usually do refresh my HT and have a DE ready for the conflag. It seems any gain from FR would be minimum, and the conditions that have to be met probably don't merit using it at all. I'll probably continue NOT using it for simplicity sake.

    If you hover around 300 while spamming AoE, I'm going to assume ~275 is okay through the conflag phase. Thanks again for the reply and all the other work you've done number crunching for us DRGs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post

    Edit: I looked at your lodestone profile and you could probably improve your DPS if you chugged a fantasia potion and switched to anything else besides a Lalafell.

    Just sayin'.
    What is wrong with being an adorable midget of death?
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    What is FR ?
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