Lightning Fates are a disgrace to the series, and a broken promise? SPOILERS

[Gravehill]

I have a feeling that all this hate for FF13 and its ilk will just be moved to FF15... and I can't wait. Hate on, haters, hate right on.

I have been playing final fantasy games since the late 80's and I hate 13. It isn't some trendy bandwagon thing that you guys seem to be implying, it's because it's such a huge departure from the rest of the series. Everyone has their own opinions, but trust me it isn't something that is just going to get moved on to other games. A lot of the core fanbase will always dislike 13. It's cool if you like it, but I don't understand how people are so surprised that it wasn't well-received. Not every negative opinion is negative just for the sake of 'hating', FYI

[rocheetbombe]

Not every negative opinion is negative just for the sake of 'hating', FYI

Not all of them, but you would be surprised.

[Katiyana]

@Gravehill, this is true, however, from every trailer I've seen of FF15, it too is looking to be a major departure for the series. so.. alright, I'll restate my phrase:

"I have a feeling people will hate FF15 just as much."

[amnie]

if you honestly played ff as long as you did then you'd also know that people HATED FFVII, HATED FFVIII, HATED FFIX.... (and that's only as far back as I remember). hell, even in this very topic you have people claim the series 'died' after VI.

so going by that, FFXIII fits into the series perfectly. every single game was vastly different. and I can assure you people will absolutely hate XV, too (heck, they already do!)

[Allyrion]

Exaggeration? Did you even play the game? You literally hit X to confirm auto-battle and the fight wins for you. God forbid you throw one extra button which is for the paradigm shift.

If you aren't constantly working the paradigms, then you didn't really utilize the system. So there's no real point continuing this conversation.

Hear what, I played FFX the first time with only Tidus, Auron and Yuna. I beat the game just fine with them. I played it a second time while switching characters constantly to counter enemy types. The difference in combat depth was extraordinary. You can play the game fine without taking advantage of it, but I think that's okay. It's up to the player to utilize and appreciate the combat.
Same guy, Motomu Toriyama. FF13 is pretty much a successor of FFX combat, but it is much more advanced.

I don't think we played the same game then, cause there definitely no strategy needed to beat the game.

See above.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Well that's too bad. Because we did. Anymore witty comments?

Not really. Honestly, it just makes me wonder how old are you? Maybe it's cause of an age difference I don't feel like there is any strategy needed for 13.

[rocheetbombe]

The key to liking each new FF game is to stop comparing it to the other games. Don't play it hoping it has "this and this and this" and just play it for what it is. A lot of people I've talked to that love some and hate others don't stop talking about how it isn't "more like this". Just play the game for what it is so you can have a more honest opinion instead of using other FF games as an example as to why another is bad.

Not really. Honestly, it just makes me wonder how old are you? Maybe it's cause of an age difference I don't feel like there is any strategy needed for 13.

The fact you'll even use age as your defense instead of anything else makes this conversation not worth having.

[Jinrya-Geki]

If you aren't constantly working the paradigms, then you didn't really utilize the system. So there's no real point continuing this conversation.

Hear what, I played FFX the first time with only Tidus, Auron and Yuna. I beat the game just fine with them. I played it a second time while switching characters constantly to counter enemy types. The difference in combat depth was extraordinary. You can play the game fine without taking advantage of it, but I think that's okay. It's up to the player to utilize and appreciate the combat.
Same guy, Motomu Toriyama. FF13 is pretty much a successor of FFX combat, but it is much more advanced.


See above.

I forget all the types now, but I generally used 2 ravagers to stagger with a commando. Sometimes I'd switch to Saboteurs for enfeebles and what not, if they actually used what was needed. if needed I'd have 1 sentinel and 2 healers.

[Jinrya-Geki]

The key to liking each new FF game is to stop comparing it to the other games. Don't play it hoping it has "this and this and this" and just play it for what it is. A lot of people I've talked to that love some and hate others don't stop talking about how it isn't "more like this". Just play the game for what it is so you can have a more honest opinion instead of using other FF games as an example as to why another is bad.



The fact you'll even use age as your defense instead of anything else makes this conversation not worth having.

I play the game for what it was. So how is my opinion more or less not honest? Age is important. I couldn't beat legends of Zelda a link to the past as a kid. When I got older and got the game again I floored it in a few hours.

Maybe you are younger than me? I don't know. Just saying it doesn't take me very long to think of what it takes to beat any fight in XIII.

[rocheetbombe]

I play the game for what it was.

The post was NOT directed to you, or anybody else by name. Nor did I say it applied to everybody. I'm not petty. I can accept if somebody doesn't like something like FF13. It has many flaws, but there are some things I will defend.